From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/17638 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Adam Lindsay" Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Sidebars and versals Oh my! Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 11:33:57 +0000 Message-ID: <20041227113358.13693@news.comp.lancs.ac.uk> References: <41CF2028.6050100@wxs.nl> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1104147258 10767 80.91.229.6 (27 Dec 2004 11:34:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 11:34:18 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Mon Dec 27 12:34:10 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Cit8c-00042a-00 for ; Mon, 27 Dec 2004 12:34:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A9D1127B6; Mon, 27 Dec 2004 12:34:08 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ronja.vet.uu.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 08547-06; Mon, 27 Dec 2004 12:34:05 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63AF6127A1; Mon, 27 Dec 2004 12:34:05 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88E6E127A1 for ; Mon, 27 Dec 2004 12:34:04 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ronja.vet.uu.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 08846-01-2 for ; Mon, 27 Dec 2004 12:34:03 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from mail.comp.lancs.ac.uk (unknown [148.88.3.45]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B94BB12798 for ; Mon, 27 Dec 2004 12:34:03 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from [192.168.31.100] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.comp.lancs.ac.uk (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iBRBY1AX018762; Mon, 27 Dec 2004 11:34:02 GMT Original-To: "mailing list for ConTeXt users" , "Hans Hagen" , "John Culleton" In-Reply-To: <41CF2028.6050100@wxs.nl> X-Mailer: CTM PowerMail version 5.1 build 4340 English X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:17638 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context:17638 h h extern said this at Sun, 26 Dec 2004 21:33:44 +0100: >> Context already has mechanisms for flowing or wrapping text around a >graphic. >> How well the wraparound feature works when more than one short paragraph is >> involved I have not tested yet. > >the mp based background mechanism can handle that: see plus-rul.tex > >(there is also another mechanism available which permits rather nasty >variants >but i still had no time to document it, so it's currently a hidden feature) plus-rul is interesting, but I'm 98% certain that when John talks about sidebars, he means what you call intermezzos. My interpretation, using the things I do know (or figured out this morning): \setupfloat [intermezzo] [leftmargindistance=-\outercombitotal, rightmargindistance=-\outercombitotal, default=outer] \setupcaption[intermezzo][location=none] \starttext \showframe \input ward \placeintermezzo{}{\framedtext[width=7cm]{\tfx\input dawkins }} \dorecurse{3}{\input knuth \par} \stoptext What I don't know, however, is: 1) how to force a width on flowed text within a float without resorting to the internal \framedtext, or 2) how to use this with \splitfloat, which is what I suspect people who think about sidebars (intermezzo texts) are going to be worried about in a batch-based system. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Adam T. Lindsay, Computing Dept. atl@comp.lancs.ac.uk Lancaster University, InfoLab21 +44(0)1524/510.514 Lancaster, LA1 4WA, UK Fax:+44(0)1524/510.492 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-