From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/17680 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: John Culleton Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Hyphenation peculiarity. Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2004 19:27:09 -0500 Organization: WexfordPress Message-ID: <200412291927.09151.john@wexfordpress.com> References: <200412281754.33849.john@wexfordpress.com> <41D2BAEB.9050707@elvenkind.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1104366984 26631 80.91.229.6 (30 Dec 2004 00:36:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 00:36:24 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Thu Dec 30 01:36:18 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CjoIc-0008PZ-00 for ; Thu, 30 Dec 2004 01:36:18 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8FBF1278B; Thu, 30 Dec 2004 01:36:16 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ronja.vet.uu.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 28652-05; Thu, 30 Dec 2004 01:36:12 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id C619F1277B; Thu, 30 Dec 2004 01:36:11 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ECA41277B for ; Thu, 30 Dec 2004 01:36:10 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ronja.vet.uu.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 28812-01 for ; Thu, 30 Dec 2004 01:36:09 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from mta11.adelphia.net (unknown [68.168.78.205]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3893F1276C for ; Thu, 30 Dec 2004 01:36:09 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from 69-174-190-44.frdrmd.adelphia.net ([69.174.190.44]) by mta11.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.03.02 201-2131-111-104-20040324) with ESMTP id <20041230003605.HCZU1403.mta11.adelphia.net@69-174-190-44.frdrmd.adelphia.net> for ; Wed, 29 Dec 2004 19:36:05 -0500 Original-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 In-Reply-To: <41D2BAEB.9050707@elvenkind.com> Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:17680 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context:17680 On Wednesday 29 December 2004 09:10, Taco Hoekwater wrote: > Hi John, > > Your format is probably missing the hyphenation patterns for english > (I ran into the same problem last week): > > > # texexec --make en > .... > language : no patterns en for en (n=1) (lang-en.pat,ukhyph.tex > language : no hyphenations en for en (n=1) > language : no patterns uk for uk (n=2) (lang-uk.pat,ukhyph.tex > language : no hyphenations uk for uk (n=2) > > John Culleton wrote: > > I noted that context seems to be most reluctant to hyphenate. So I ran a > > test file through plain tex, pdftex and Context and checked the results. > > Context hyphenated less than the other two. > > > > The manual does not say much about hyphenation. I am using a fresh > > TeXLive install. > > > > Here is the top part of the > > log----------------------------------------------- This is pdfeTeXk, > > Version 3.141592-1.20a-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.3) (format=cont-en 2004.12.28) 28 > > DEC 2004 17:14 > > entering extended mode > > %&-line parsing enabled. > > (/usr/TeX/texmf/web2c/natural.tcx) > > **&cont-en hypph.tex > > (./hypph.tex > > > > ConTeXt ver: 2004.11.17 fmt: 2004.12.28 int: english mes: english > > > > language : language en is active > > > > Here is the test file-------------------------------------------- > > \hsize 2in > > \input knuth.tex > > \bye > > > > It seems to act as if the hyphenation dictionary weren't here. If I put > > in a discretionary hyphen Context will use it. > > _______________________________________________ > ntg-context mailing list > ntg-context@ntg.nl > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context Thanks for your prompt reply. I did texexec --make en nl and got reams of output. I moved the resulting format to the place where the original cont-en.fmt existed. Then I did texhash just to make sure. Then I ran some tests. The results were the same as the earlier results this month. I happen to have the perfect test case. I have an incomplete book that I last ran through Context in April. I have both the source and resulting pdf. The April result was hyphenated. The December results were not. The results were identical before and after running texexec --make en nl etc. Should I download Context from Pragma and reinstall from scratch? Or just find an older version on a cdr somewhere? Other suggestions? -- John Culleton Short list of publishing/marketing books: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/shortlist.pdf