From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/19387 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Adam Lindsay" Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: my new page on layout Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 23:35:21 +0000 Message-ID: <20050326233521.12636@mail.comp.lancs.ac.uk> References: <20050326174333.GB1999@localhost.localdomain> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1111880117 6961 80.91.229.6 (26 Mar 2005 23:35:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 23:35:17 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Sun Mar 27 00:35:08 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1DFKo8-00012v-00 for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2005 00:35:08 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 826101286F; Sun, 27 Mar 2005 00:35:35 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ronja.vet.uu.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 27429-06; Sun, 27 Mar 2005 00:35:32 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2D4B1286B; Sun, 27 Mar 2005 00:35:31 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E01CA1286B for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2005 00:35:30 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ronja.vet.uu.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 27567-03 for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2005 00:35:30 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from mail.comp.lancs.ac.uk (mail.comp.lancs.ac.uk [148.88.3.45]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1280612865 for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2005 00:35:30 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from [192.168.31.102] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.comp.lancs.ac.uk (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j2QNZL2f017157; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 23:35:21 GMT Original-To: "mailing list for ConTeXt users" , "Paul Tremblay" In-Reply-To: <20050326174333.GB1999@localhost.localdomain> X-Mailer: CTM PowerMail version 5.1 build 4340 English X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:19387 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context:19387 Paul Tremblay said this at Sat, 26 Mar 2005 12:43:33 -0500: >http://www.geocities.com/paulhtremblay/context_xml/page2.html > >I would appreciate any feedback. I hope the page will be useful in >helping others overcome some of the difficulty I had in trying to >understand layout in ConTeXt. I believe it is very thorough. I hope it >is clear (it contains many illustrations) and accurate. Hi Paul, Your prose is fairly clear, but the style tends to be a bit too prescriptive for my tastes. I think a lot of it would be alleviated by you setting up the context a bit more ("this is what I found works for me, coming from the FO page model"). Still, you set out statements like this without telling the whole story: >Always set your width to fit. Furthermore, I think our models of ConTeXt page layout are somewhat different. You say this in the article: >Do not make the mistake in thinking that the cutspace property is the >equivelent of the backspace property. The cutspace property is the sum of >some rather complicated calculations. Looking at page-lay, it seems like your perceived "complications" would go away to some extent by telling people to use "width=middle", for example. It's clear and thorough. I have some concerns about its accuracy, however. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Adam T. Lindsay, Computing Dept. atl@comp.lancs.ac.uk Lancaster University, InfoLab21 +44(0)1524/510.514 Lancaster, LA1 4WA, UK Fax:+44(0)1524/510.492 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-