From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/19636 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul Tremblay Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Re: customizing footnote numbers Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 18:52:57 -0400 Message-ID: <20050405225257.GB24022@localhost.localdomain> References: <20050403195842.GB27556@localhost.localdomain> <20050404061013.GA31321@localhost.localdomain> <4250FAF5.1070604@wxs.nl> <20050405012754.GA13140@localhost.localdomain> <20050405155223.GB23300@localhost.localdomain> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1112741484 30549 80.91.229.2 (5 Apr 2005 22:51:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 22:51:24 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Wed Apr 06 00:51:19 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DIwsp-0002br-Vp for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 00:50:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 770451280B; Wed, 6 Apr 2005 00:52:57 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ronja.vet.uu.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 12410-04; Wed, 6 Apr 2005 00:52:52 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAB3A127C6; Wed, 6 Apr 2005 00:52:51 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2923127C6 for ; Wed, 6 Apr 2005 00:52:49 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ronja.vet.uu.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 12314-08 for ; Wed, 6 Apr 2005 00:52:48 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from rdsmtp.iglou.com (rdsmtp.iglou.com [192.107.41.63]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64F5E127BE for ; Wed, 6 Apr 2005 00:52:48 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from [192.107.41.6] (helo=iglou3.iglou.com) by rdsmtp.iglou.com with esmtp (8.12.5/8.12.5) id 1DIwud-0000wT-ID for ntg-context@ntg.nl; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 18:52:47 -0400 Original-Received: from [64.253.97.143] (helo=localhost.localdomain) by iglou3.iglou.com with esmtp (8.12.5/8.12.5) id 1DIwud-0000Ak-D0 for ntg-context@ntg.nl; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 18:52:47 -0400 Original-Received: by localhost.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 501) id AA64A1BBAD; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 18:52:57 -0400 (EDT) Original-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Mail-Followup-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:19636 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context:19636 On Tue, Apr 05, 2005 at 06:17:39PM +0200, Patrick Gundlach wrote: > Sorry to say, but in this case, no solution would be much better than > this solution. Really? Wow! So if if the requirements for some document are hanging indents footnotes, and I have asked how to do them on the mailing list, and no one gives me a solution; and I then use my solution and create a nice looking document and satisfy the requirements, say for the thesis committee--that is *worse* than producing a document that does not fulfill the requirements and is not accepted? Wow, that's amazing that Patrick Gunlach as power over the editors and committees. >There is nothing(!) worse than mixing visual markup with > logical markup this way. Except no solution at all when you have a deadline to meet and must produce a document. Or except global warming. A little perspective would be nice. >We are in a fully programmable environment, > and it is extremely unConTeXtish to hack the visual appearance. I am an XML author, so am pretty amazed to hear that one should not mix appearance and content in ConTeXt. Most of a ConTeXt document involves visual appearance. What is one saying when one writes \blank[12pt]? >If I > have some minutes off tonight, I'll look into it. But I'd guess that > Hans already has several different solutions to this problem, because > every time I write "no solution yet" on this mailinglist, Hans > presents some unknown/forgotten secret. > Yes, that would be nice. But until I see a concrete solution, I will continue to use and post my solution. A rule of etiquette is that if you don't have a better solution, or don't want to document it, don't attack the current solution, not matter how impure. Paul -- ************************ *Paul Tremblay * *phthenry@iglou.com * ************************