From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/20058 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Adam Lindsay" Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:=20=20proposed=20convention=20for=20?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?variation=20switching=09[wasRE:inheriting=20...?= Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 15:55:19 +0100 Message-ID: <20050422155519.17938@mail.comp.lancs.ac.uk> References: Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1114181545 6767 80.91.229.2 (22 Apr 2005 14:52:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 14:52:25 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Fri Apr 22 16:52:18 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DOzUV-0003pd-OY for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 16:50:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FDC012830; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 16:55:26 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ronja.vet.uu.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 13443-04-2; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 16:55:23 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 563531282C; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 16:55:23 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 223681282C for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 16:55:22 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ronja.vet.uu.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 13351-03-4 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 16:55:21 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail.comp.lancs.ac.uk (mail.comp.lancs.ac.uk [148.88.3.45]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4388D1282A for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 16:55:21 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from [194.80.37.193] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.comp.lancs.ac.uk (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j3MEtKIk012274 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 15:55:20 +0100 (BST) Original-To: "mailing list for ConTeXt users" In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: CTM PowerMail version 5.1 build 4340 English X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:20058 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context:20058 Idris Samawi Hamid said this at Fri, 22 Apr 2005 08:36:02 -0600: >In any case whatever high-level framework we come up with should largely >be determined by your decision on the low/mid-level framework. See, I beg to differ. Whatever high-level framework(s) we come up with should largely be *independent* of what comes below. Implementation details change, but the markup should live on independently. It's one of the drawbacks of these terse mid-level font switches (e.g., \ita). The brevity really helps save keying for users, and so they're really inviting to be used by themselves in documents. The more attractive and robust markup possibilities allowed by things like \definestyle go unnoticed, and relatively unused. So you can define your markup more semantically with \Emphasis{} and \Acronym{} and \Arabic{} and \Bigger{} and \Slightlybolder{}, and Hans can change the internals, you can change the font scheme, and everything still manages to get along. Disclaimer: I can't claim to have been doing things the structured way up until now, but I've been thinking about it a lot lately. adam -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Adam T. Lindsay, Computing Dept. atl@comp.lancs.ac.uk Lancaster University, InfoLab21 +44(0)1524/510.514 Lancaster, LA1 4WA, UK Fax:+44(0)1524/510.492 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-