From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/20060 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Adam Lindsay" Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Will the real palatino please stand up? Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 16:40:04 +0100 Message-ID: <20050422164004.14366@mail.comp.lancs.ac.uk> References: <200504221049.09828.john@wexfordpress.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1114184195 16203 80.91.229.2 (22 Apr 2005 15:36:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 15:36:35 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Fri Apr 22 17:36:27 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DP0Br-00043g-Cx for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 17:35:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C05212832; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 17:40:13 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ronja.vet.uu.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 13977-05-4; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 17:40:08 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4D0412821; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 17:40:08 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79A0112821 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 17:40:07 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ronja.vet.uu.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 13977-05-3 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 17:40:06 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail.comp.lancs.ac.uk (mail.comp.lancs.ac.uk [148.88.3.45]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70AD81281D for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 17:40:06 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from [194.80.37.193] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.comp.lancs.ac.uk (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j3MFe5Ik016153 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 16:40:06 +0100 (BST) Original-To: "mailing list for ConTeXt users" In-Reply-To: <200504221049.09828.john@wexfordpress.com> X-Mailer: CTM PowerMail version 5.1 build 4340 English X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:20060 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context:20060 John R. Culleton said this at Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:49:09 +0000: >In the typescript file type-syn.tex the palatino font is defined >four times, twice for math and twice for serif. The headers in >each pair are identical, e.g.: > >\starttypescript [serif] [palatino] [name] > > >Assume I want to use the second serif typescript, the one that uses >the Palladio fonts. Using the \usetypescript statement, how do I >specify that particular script? They all get loaded. The second group (corresponding with the second [serif] [palatino] [ec,texnansi,8r] typescript in type-enc) is a set of bonus extras, not stand-alone, that help call in the FPLv1 fonts, which are: Regular Caps & OsF, Italic OsF, Bold OsF, and BoldItalic OsF. The different glyph shapes mean they can't really be used on their own as a family, but rather called out as variants, generally for Old Style Figures. Actually, the "bonus definitions" down at the bottom of type-syn are preparation for font variants. So after installing the FPL[1] fonts, adding the following to your environment: \definefontvariant [Serif] [os] [OsF] ...allows you to get oldstyle figures with markup like {\Var[os]123}. However (and I can already hear the question forming on some people's lips), if you want pervasive OsFs in your Palatino document, without having to mark each numeric string, you're better off installing the FPL- Neu fonts[2], using an old-stylish encoding like one listed in Idris's recent MyWay or in the distro[3]. [1] [2] [3] fonts/enc/dvips/context/texnansi-os-lm.enc Cheers, adam -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Adam T. Lindsay, Computing Dept. atl@comp.lancs.ac.uk Lancaster University, InfoLab21 +44(0)1524/510.514 Lancaster, LA1 4WA, UK Fax:+44(0)1524/510.492 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-