no 'd' in math-eul.tex

no 'd' in math-eul.tex

[Johan Sandblom]

In the math-eul.tex shown in the contextgarden.net source browser
dated 2003.02.03, which is the only one I have found, the following lines 
occur

...
\definemathcharacter [c]   [nothing] [mr] ["63]
\definemathcharacter [d]   [nothing] [mr] ["65]
\definemathcharacter [e]   [nothing] [mr] ["65]
\definemathcharacter [f]   [nothing] [mr] ["66]
...

and

...
\definemathcharacter [C]   [nothing] [mr] ["43]
\definemathcharacter [D]   [nothing] [mr] ["45]
\definemathcharacter [E]   [nothing] [mr] ["45]
\definemathcharacter [F]   [nothing] [mr] ["46]
...

making 'd' and 'D' print as 'e' and 'E'. I suppose this is a
mistake? 

Regards, Johan

-- 
Johan Sandblom  N8, MRC, Karolinska sjh  
t +46851776108  17176 Stockholm  
m +46735521477  Sweden           
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will to find out, which is the exact opposite" 
-- Bertrand Russell

Re: no 'd' in math-eul.tex

[Adam Lindsay]

Johan Sandblom said this at Mon, 9 May 2005 09:14:29 +0200:

>making 'd' and 'D' print as 'e' and 'E'. I suppose this is a
>mistake? 

Huh? I think those hex values are correct.
Do you have a test case that doesn't work for you? This works for me (I
have the EulerVM fonts installed):

\definetypeface[cheu][rm][serif][charter][default][encoding=ec]
\definetypeface[cheu][mm][math][euler][euler][rscale=1.05]
\setupbodyfont[cheu]
 
 \starttext
\startformula
A + B + C = A^{B^C}
\stopformula
\startformula
a + b + c = a^{b^c}
\stopformula

\stoptext

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Re: no 'd' in math-eul.tex

[Hans Hagen]

Johan Sandblom wrote:
> In the math-eul.tex shown in the contextgarden.net source browser
> dated 2003.02.03, which is the only one I have found, the following lines 
> occur
> 
> ...
> \definemathcharacter [c]   [nothing] [mr] ["63]
> \definemathcharacter [d]   [nothing] [mr] ["65]
> \definemathcharacter [e]   [nothing] [mr] ["65]
> \definemathcharacter [f]   [nothing] [mr] ["66]
> ...
> 
> and
> 
> ...
> \definemathcharacter [C]   [nothing] [mr] ["43]
> \definemathcharacter [D]   [nothing] [mr] ["45]
> \definemathcharacter [E]   [nothing] [mr] ["45]
> \definemathcharacter [F]   [nothing] [mr] ["46]
> ...
> 
> making 'd' and 'D' print as 'e' and 'E'. I suppose this is a
> mistake? 

indeed, should be "64 and "44

hans

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Re: no 'd' in math-eul.tex

[Adam Lindsay]

OKAY!
Ignore my last two messages! :| Sorry, I've been "distracted" by this EU
project meeting where I'm sitting.

You're absolutely right. This is a stupid, stupid bug. You can fix this
with a patch like the following, in your favourite patch-putting-place:

\starttypescript[math][euler][special]
 \startmathcollection [eul]
  \definemathcharacter [d]   [nothing] [mr] ["64]
  \definemathcharacter [D]   [nothing] [mr] ["44]
 \stopmathcollection
\stoptypescript

I don't have anything against the letter 'd'. Honest!

aeam linesay

Johan Sandblom said this at Mon, 9 May 2005 09:14:29 +0200:

>In the math-eul.tex shown in the contextgarden.net source browser
>dated 2003.02.03, which is the only one I have found, the following lines 
>occur
>
>...
>\definemathcharacter [c]   [nothing] [mr] ["63]
>\definemathcharacter [d]   [nothing] [mr] ["65]
>\definemathcharacter [e]   [nothing] [mr] ["65]
>\definemathcharacter [f]   [nothing] [mr] ["66]
>...
>
>and
>
>...
>\definemathcharacter [C]   [nothing] [mr] ["43]
>\definemathcharacter [D]   [nothing] [mr] ["45]
>\definemathcharacter [E]   [nothing] [mr] ["45]
>\definemathcharacter [F]   [nothing] [mr] ["46]
>...
>
>making 'd' and 'D' print as 'e' and 'E'. I suppose this is a
>mistake? 
>
>Regards, Johan
>
>-- 
>Johan Sandblom  N8, MRC, Karolinska sjh  
>t +46851776108  17176 Stockholm  
>m +46735521477  Sweden           
>"What is wanted is not the will to believe, but the 
>will to find out, which is the exact opposite" 
>-- Bertrand Russell
>
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Re: no 'D' in math-eul.tex

[Hans Hagen]

Johan Sandblom wrote:

>In May I discovered that there was a typo in math-eul.tex rendering
>the lower-case 'd' an 'e'. Amazingly, the same problem occurs also for
>the upper-case 'D', and requires changing the line
>
>\definemathcharacter [D] [nothing] [mr] ["45]
>
>into
>
>\definemathcharacter [D] [nothing] [mr] ["44]
>  
>
ok, fixed,

>Apparently this beautiful font is severely underused to allow this
>typo to survive!
>  
>
or maybe the D is not used that much (those chars are only used alone, 
not in words, so if one can do with A-C the D is never hit)

Hans

no 'D' in math-eul.tex

[Johan Sandblom]

In May I discovered that there was a typo in math-eul.tex rendering
the lower-case 'd' an 'e'. Amazingly, the same problem occurs also for
the upper-case 'D', and requires changing the line

\definemathcharacter [D] [nothing] [mr] ["45]

into

\definemathcharacter [D] [nothing] [mr] ["44]

Apparently this beautiful font is severely underused to allow this
typo to survive!

Regards, Johan
--
Johan Sandblom  N8, MRC, Karolinska sjh
t +46851776108  17176 Stockholm
m +46735521477  Sweden
"What is wanted is not the will to believe, but the
will to find out, which is the exact opposite"
- Bertrand Russell

Re: no 'd' in math-eul.tex

[Johan Sandblom]

Thanks, I already repaired it, I just thought it should not be propagated
further ...

-- 
Johan Sandblom  N8, MRC, Karolinska sjh  
t +46851776108  17176 Stockholm  
m +46735521477  Sweden           
"What is wanted is not the will to believe, but the 
will to find out, which is the exact opposite" 
-- Bertrand Russell

----- Original Message -----
From: Adam Lindsay <atl@comp.lancs.ac.uk>
Date: Monday, May 9, 2005 11:50 am
Subject: Re: [NTG-context] no 'd' in math-eul.tex

> OKAY!
> Ignore my last two messages! :| Sorry, I've been "distracted" by 
> this EU
> project meeting where I'm sitting.
> 
> You're absolutely right. This is a stupid, stupid bug. You can fix 
> thiswith a patch like the following, in your favourite patch-
> putting-place:
> 
> \starttypescript[math][euler][special]
> \startmathcollection [eul]
>  \definemathcharacter [d]   [nothing] [mr] ["64]
>  \definemathcharacter [D]   [nothing] [mr] ["44]
> \stopmathcollection
> \stoptypescript
> 
> I don't have anything against the letter 'd'. Honest!
> 
> aeam linesay
> 
> Johan Sandblom said this at Mon, 9 May 2005 09:14:29 +0200:
> 
> >In the math-eul.tex shown in the contextgarden.net source browser
> >dated 2003.02.03, which is the only one I have found, the 
> following lines 
> >occur
> >
> >...
> >\definemathcharacter [c]   [nothing] [mr] ["63]
> >\definemathcharacter [d]   [nothing] [mr] ["65]
> >\definemathcharacter [e]   [nothing] [mr] ["65]
> >\definemathcharacter [f]   [nothing] [mr] ["66]
> >...
> >
> >and
> >
> >...
> >\definemathcharacter [C]   [nothing] [mr] ["43]
> >\definemathcharacter [D]   [nothing] [mr] ["45]
> >\definemathcharacter [E]   [nothing] [mr] ["45]
> >\definemathcharacter [F]   [nothing] [mr] ["46]
> >...
> >
> >making 'd' and 'D' print as 'e' and 'E'. I suppose this is a
> >mistake? 
> >
> >Regards, Johan
> >
> >-- 
> >Johan Sandblom  N8, MRC, Karolinska sjh  
> >t +46851776108  17176 Stockholm  
> >m +46735521477  Sweden           
> >"What is wanted is not the will to believe, but the 
> >will to find out, which is the exact opposite" 
> >-- Bertrand Russell
> >
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> >ntg-context@ntg.nl
> >http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
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Re: no 'd' in math-eul.tex

[Adam Lindsay]

Hmm, disturbing.

What system/engine are you using?
Could you email me with your output (off-list is best), and include 
\showfont[zeurm10] as well?

cheers,
adam

Johan Sandblom said this at Mon, 9 May 2005 11:01:51 +0200:

>If 'c' and 'C' in your example are changed to
>'d' and 'D', it illustrates the point. I also have
>the fonts installed following your excellent guide.
>
>Johan
>
>-- 
>Johan Sandblom  N8, MRC, Karolinska sjh  
>t +46851776108  17176 Stockholm  
>m +46735521477  Sweden           
>"What is wanted is not the will to believe, but the 
>will to find out, which is the exact opposite" 
>-- Bertrand Russell
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Adam Lindsay <atl@comp.lancs.ac.uk>
>Date: Monday, May 9, 2005 10:05 am
>Subject: Re: [NTG-context] no 'd' in math-eul.tex
>
>> Johan Sandblom said this at Mon, 9 May 2005 09:14:29 +0200:
>> 
>> >making 'd' and 'D' print as 'e' and 'E'. I suppose this is a
>> >mistake? 
>> 
>> Huh? I think those hex values are correct.
>> Do you have a test case that doesn't work for you? This works for 
>> me (I
>> have the EulerVM fonts installed):
>> 
>> \definetypeface[cheu][rm][serif][charter][default][encoding=ec]
>> \definetypeface[cheu][mm][math][euler][euler][rscale=1.05]
>> \setupbodyfont[cheu]
>> 
>> \starttext
>> \startformula
>> A + B + C = A^{B^C}
>> \stopformula
>> \startformula
>> a + b + c = a^{b^c}
>> \stopformula
>> 
>> \stoptext
>> 
>> -- 
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>> Lancaster University, InfoLab21        +44(0)1524/510.514
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Re: no 'd' in math-eul.tex

[Johan Sandblom]

If 'c' and 'C' in your example are changed to
'd' and 'D', it illustrates the point. I also have
the fonts installed following your excellent guide.

Johan

-- 
Johan Sandblom  N8, MRC, Karolinska sjh  
t +46851776108  17176 Stockholm  
m +46735521477  Sweden           
"What is wanted is not the will to believe, but the 
will to find out, which is the exact opposite" 
-- Bertrand Russell

----- Original Message -----
From: Adam Lindsay <atl@comp.lancs.ac.uk>
Date: Monday, May 9, 2005 10:05 am
Subject: Re: [NTG-context] no 'd' in math-eul.tex

> Johan Sandblom said this at Mon, 9 May 2005 09:14:29 +0200:
> 
> >making 'd' and 'D' print as 'e' and 'E'. I suppose this is a
> >mistake? 
> 
> Huh? I think those hex values are correct.
> Do you have a test case that doesn't work for you? This works for 
> me (I
> have the EulerVM fonts installed):
> 
> \definetypeface[cheu][rm][serif][charter][default][encoding=ec]
> \definetypeface[cheu][mm][math][euler][euler][rscale=1.05]
> \setupbodyfont[cheu]
> 
> \starttext
> \startformula
> A + B + C = A^{B^C}
> \stopformula
> \startformula
> a + b + c = a^{b^c}
> \stopformula
> 
> \stoptext
> 
> -- 
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