From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/20426 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Adam Lindsay" Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: LaTeX emulation Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 17:40:48 +0100 Message-ID: <20050518164048.12268@mail.comp.lancs.ac.uk> References: <23d0689705051711357c01e36c@mail.gmail.com> <428A4EF4.1020701@wxs.nl> <428A6C98.4070100@gmail.com> <4.3.1.2.20050518091617.02aaa2e0@cits1.stanford.edu> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1116434786 26343 80.91.229.2 (18 May 2005 16:46:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 16:46:26 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Wed May 18 18:46:23 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DYReG-0000xb-Uo for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Wed, 18 May 2005 18:43:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 107D4127DB; Wed, 18 May 2005 18:44:42 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 03079-02; Wed, 18 May 2005 18:44:41 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC095127EC; Wed, 18 May 2005 18:40:41 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36F71127EC for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 18:40:40 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 02588-05 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 18:40:39 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail.comp.lancs.ac.uk (mail.comp.lancs.ac.uk [148.88.3.45]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50E80127DB for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 18:40:39 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from [194.80.37.193] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.comp.lancs.ac.uk (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j4IGeb69014295 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 17:40:39 +0100 (BST) Original-To: "mailing list for ConTeXt users" In-Reply-To: <4.3.1.2.20050518091617.02aaa2e0@cits1.stanford.edu> X-Mailer: CTM PowerMail version 5.2b4 build 4376 English X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.3 (2005-04-27) on smtp.ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:20426 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context:20426 Brooks Moses said this at Wed, 18 May 2005 09:23:01 -0700: >>:-) >> >>There must be at least some decent LaTeX layouts out there, >>surely there is no need to emulate the default classes? > >In my opinion, the primary utility of this would be an ability to emulate >the large quantity of classes that are based on the default classes, but >with the margins and stuff adjusted to fit a given journal style (or >such). One hopes that this could be done automatically, too, by feeding >the appropriate arbitrary style file into ConTeXt, but that may be a bit >much to ask at least at first. Okay, I'd agree there's a need for some no-brains default styles. I'd also agree with Taco's point that LaTeX's defaults are pretty ugly. On the other hand, they're *familiar* and widespread. To many with an engineering viewpoint, that can be more important than "attractive". I suspect that going through and emulating individual journal styles is going to be a futile exercise, but we can work through some specific requests of classes with a limited number of options. I suspect that with the "emulation mode" taken care of, some of us will want to give a "ConTeXt remix" slant on it, to show how things can be done better. So: any requests? -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Adam T. Lindsay, Computing Dept. atl@comp.lancs.ac.uk Lancaster University, InfoLab21 +44(0)1524/510.514 Lancaster, LA1 4WA, UK Fax:+44(0)1524/510.492 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-