\whitespace vs \parskip

\whitespace vs \parskip

[John R. Culleton]

I needed to decrease the spacing between paragraphs to fit
everything in to a newsletter with limited page count. 

\parskip 3pt          %works
\setupwhitespace[3pt] %doesn't

Comments? 
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Re: \whitespace vs \parskip

[John R. Culleton]

On Tuesday 14 June 2005 12:11 pm, Nikolai Weibull wrote:
> John R. Culleton wrote:
> > I needed to decrease the spacing between paragraphs to fit
> > everything in to a newsletter with limited page count.
> >
> > \parskip 3pt          %works
> > \setupwhitespace[3pt] %doesn't
>
> Does using one of the keywords work?  For example,
>
> \setupwhitespace[small]
>
> Enjoy,
>         nikolai
Keywords help, dimensions don't. 

Taco asked for a minimal example. I don't want to make it too
minimal however since there may be some unsuspected interaction
between all my code and the way it is supposed to work. With
that caveat here is my example. If one comments out \parskip and
uncomments \setupwhitespace then the spacing above the word
"August" is greater. Reverse these steps and it is smaller. 
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\setupoutput[pdftex]
\setuppapersize[letter][letter]
\setupcolors[state=start]
\setuppapersize[letter][letter]
\setuppagenumbering[location=footer,middle]
\setupwhitespace[3pt]
%\parskip 3pt
\setupfonthandling [hz] [min=25,max=25,step=5]
\usetypescript [serif,sans,mono] [hanging] [normal]
\usetypescriptfile[type-enc]
  \usetypescript [adobekb] [8r]
  \usetypescript [charter][8r]
\setupalign[hanging,hz]
\setuplayout[width=.8\paperwidth,location=middle,
topspace=0.3in,
header=0.24in,
height=10in
]

\setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]
\setupitemize[packed,columns]
\tolerance=500
\widowpenalty=10000
\clubpenalty=10000
\usetypescript [serif,sans,mono] [hanging] [normal]
\usetypescriptfile[type-charter]
  \usetypescript [Charter][8r]
\setupalign[hanging]
  \setupbodyfont
    [MyCharter,9pt]
\starttext
\startcolumns
\section{Calendar}
\subsection{2005}
{\bf June}\crlf
11-12: AD NADAC Agility Games Trial\crlf
12: Obedience Show-n-Go

{\bf July}\crlf
10: Obedience Show-n-Go

{\bf August}\crlf
14: Annual Summer Picnic and\crlf
General Membership meeting\crlf
L. C. Burns Park Westminster
\stopcolumns
\stoptext

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Thanks to you and to Taco both for looking into this. 

Some of my InDesign-using friends say that the reason they don't
switch to Open Source like TeX or Scribus is because of support
issues. They don't understand why I laugh so hard :)

-- 

John Culleton

Re: \whitespace vs \parskip

[Taco Hoekwater]

John R. Culleton wrote:
> I needed to decrease the spacing between paragraphs to fit
> everything in to a newsletter with limited page count. 
> 
> \parskip 3pt          %works
> \setupwhitespace[3pt] %doesn't
 > Comments?

I cannot duplicate the problem using a trivial test file, so this
needs a minimal example. (I found it quite easy to achieve the
opposite case)

Taco

Re: \whitespace vs \parskip

[Nikolai Weibull]

John R. Culleton wrote:

> I needed to decrease the spacing between paragraphs to fit
> everything in to a newsletter with limited page count. 

> \parskip 3pt          %works
> \setupwhitespace[3pt] %doesn't

Does using one of the keywords work?  For example,

\setupwhitespace[small]

Enjoy,
        nikolai

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Re: \whitespace vs \parskip

[John R. Culleton]

On Tuesday 14 June 2005 05:24 pm, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> John R. Culleton wrote:
> > Taco asked for a minimal example. I don't want to make it too
>
> You were missing:
>
>    \setupcolumns[blank=3pt]
>
> please don't ask me why columns have their own whitespace settings,
> they just do. ;)
>
> Greetings, Taco

As we say over here "there is no reason for it, it is just
company policy."

But at least there is an explanation. Thanks to you one more
time. BTW the Context Manual p 64 doesn't mention a dimension as
an allowable value for to the the "blank=" parameter. 

 
Best wishes, 

John Culleton

Re: \whitespace vs \parskip

[Taco Hoekwater]

John R. Culleton wrote:
> 
> Taco asked for a minimal example. I don't want to make it too

You were missing:

   \setupcolumns[blank=3pt]

please don't ask me why columns have their own whitespace settings,
they just do. ;)

Greetings, Taco

Re: \whitespace vs \parskip

[h h extern]

John R. Culleton wrote:
> On Tuesday 14 June 2005 05:24 pm, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> 
>>John R. Culleton wrote:
>>
>>>Taco asked for a minimal example. I don't want to make it too
>>
>>You were missing:
>>
>>   \setupcolumns[blank=3pt]
>>
>>please don't ask me why columns have their own whitespace settings,
>>they just do. ;)
>>
>>Greetings, Taco
> 
> 
> As we say over here "there is no reason for it, it is just
> company policy."
> 
> But at least there is an explanation. Thanks to you one more
> time. BTW the Context Manual p 64 doesn't mention a dimension as
> an allowable value for to the the "blank=" parameter. 

columns have their own value because it influences grid handling and such

Hans


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