From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/21264 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Adam Lindsay" Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Why does ConTeXt try to load Latin Modern? Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 11:04:33 +0100 Message-ID: <20050708100433.9242@mail.comp.lancs.ac.uk> References: <129725119.20050706140210@iol.it> <20050706121813.6608@mail.comp.lancs.ac.uk> <42CBD4F0.4070401@wxs.nl> <627880484.20050706154858@iol.it> <42CBFB57.3000605@wxs.nl> <1192348060.20050706193909@iol.it> <42CC1CE9.2060106@wxs.nl> <42CC203F.3030307@elvenkind.com> <1029219557.20050706225830@iol.it> <42CC4EF2.5050002@wxs.nl> <01647009.20050707105018@iol.it> <42CD308B.3010208@wxs.nl> <20050707194042.12563@mail.comp.lancs.ac.uk> <1658238530.20050708101101@iol.it> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1120817100 18784 80.91.229.2 (8 Jul 2005 10:05:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 10:05:00 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Fri Jul 08 12:04:51 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dqpir-0006Rc-UF for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 12:04:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 979A61283A; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 12:04:41 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 03183-01-8; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 12:04:37 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE4241284F; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 12:04:37 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E52811284F for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 12:04:36 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 03183-01-7 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 12:04:36 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail.comp.lancs.ac.uk (mail.comp.lancs.ac.uk [148.88.3.45]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF9BB1283A for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 12:04:35 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from [192.168.31.101] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.comp.lancs.ac.uk (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j68A4Y4X016732 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 11:04:35 +0100 (BST) Original-To: "mailing list for ConTeXt users" In-Reply-To: <1658238530.20050708101101@iol.it> X-Mailer: CTM PowerMail version 5.2.1 build 4397 English X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.3 (2005-04-27) on smtp.ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:21264 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context:21264 Giuseppe Bilotta said this at Fri, 8 Jul 2005 10:11:01 +0200: >Thursday, July 7, 2005 Adam Lindsay wrote: > >> Me neither, but they look to be of good quality, but of lesser glyph >> coverage (lacking AMS symbols) than the PX fonts. That said, the basic >> three fonts are 99.8% glyph compatible with the existing PX support. > >So ConTeXt uses the PX family for math support when Palatino >is in use? That's my understanding of it, yes. Reading more about it yesterday, that does indeed sound non-optimal. Can you say what the requirements would be for improving Palatino math support would be? (And have you tried my little typescript hack?) For those trying to follow along: Young Ryu's pxmath: * Current ConTeXt choice + Complete AMS glyph coverage - Some spacing bugs - No longer supported, and deprecated in LaTeX world Diego Puga's mathpazo: * LaTeX's preferred choice (of free fonts) + heavily tested spacing - only 'basic' math support I think some sort of hybrid is possible. Without relying on virtual fonts, it would be necessary to make a choice between the two blackboard options. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Adam T. Lindsay, Computing Dept. atl@comp.lancs.ac.uk Lancaster University, InfoLab21 +44(0)1524/510.514 Lancaster, LA1 4WA, UK Fax:+44(0)1524/510.492 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-