lot of newbie questions

lot of newbie questions

[toto]

Hello list, I've got a lot of newbie questions. I'm writing a technical 
document with context for the first time to try it. I come from a 
TeX/LaTeX world.

-> How to print a tilda? I'm trying to write an URL with a tilda in it 
with the font \tt. \widetilda, \tilda do not output any character. Even 
\~{} do not print anything. And it does not seem to appear somewhere in 
the wiki or in the "special characters" section of the "ConTeXt an 
excursion" excellent document.

-> How could I do french guillemets (<< and >>)? Is it possible?

-> I would like to make a glossary, ie an index with a definition for 
each entry. Many parts of the manual could help me but i don't really 
now in which direction to dig: is it a list of definition? Should I use 
registers?

-> I'm trying to put a metapost graphic in the margin like te example 
in the manual reference (page 47) using the following command:
\definestartstop[important][command={\inmarge{\useMPgraphic{bang}[width=\marginwidth]}}]
But (of course :) it does not work at all and put some blank pages. Any idea?

Thanks a lot for your help. And thanks a lot to all the developpers od 
ConTeXt: it is thought in a really smart way!

-AJ

Re: lot of newbie questions

[Thomas A. Schmitz]

On Dec 2, 2005, at 8:30 AM, toto@tots-ns.net wrote:

> Hello list, I've got a lot of newbie questions. I'm writing a  
> technical document with context for the first time to try it. I  
> come from a TeX/LaTeX world.
>
> -> How to print a tilda? I'm trying to write an URL with a tilda in  
> it with the font \tt. \widetilda, \tilda do not output any  
> character. Even \~{} do not print anything. And it does not seem to  
> appear somewhere in the wiki or in the "special characters" section  
> of the "ConTeXt an excursion" excellent document.
Which encoding are you using? Try \texttilde

>
> -> How could I do french guillemets (<< and >>)? Is it possible?
Which inputregime are you using? With \enableregime[utf], you can  
input them directly, or try \leftguillemot and \rightguillemot (yes,  
the names are moronic, but that's Adobe's fault)

>
> -> I would like to make a glossary, ie an index with a definition  
> for each entry. Many parts of the manual could help me but i don't  
> really now in which direction to dig: is it a list of definition?  
> Should I use registers?
>
> -> I'm trying to put a metapost graphic in the margin like te  
> example in the manual reference (page 47) using the following command:
> \definestartstop[important][command={\inmarge{\useMPgraphic{bang} 
> [width=\marginwidth]}}]
> But (of course :) it does not work at all and put some blank pages.  
> Any idea?
>
For these two, others will have to help.

Best

Thomas

Re: lot of newbie questions

[Jörg Hagmann]

On Dec 2, 2005, at 8:30 AM, toto@tots-ns.net wrote:
>
> -> I'm trying to put a metapost graphic in the margin like te  
> example in the manual reference (page 47) using the following command:
> \definestartstop[important][command={\inmarge{\useMPgraphic{bang} 
> [width=\marginwidth]}}]
> But (of course :) it does not work at all and put some blank pages.  
> Any idea?

I also tried, following the manual, "\inmarge" and then learned that  
it is Dutch and doesn't work with the (mewer) version I had. Use  
"\inmargin" instead.
Cheers, Jörg

Re: lot of newbie questions

[toto]

Quoting "Thomas A. Schmitz" <thomas.schmitz@uni-bonn.de>:

>
> On Dec 2, 2005, at 8:30 AM, toto@tots-ns.net wrote:
>
>> Hello list, I've got a lot of newbie questions. I'm writing a  
>> technical document with context for the first time to try it. I  
>> come from a TeX/LaTeX world.
>>
>> -> How to print a tilda? I'm trying to write an URL with a tilda in  
>> it with the font \tt. \widetilda, \tilda do not output any  
>> character. Even \~{} do not print anything. And it does not seem to  
>> appear somewhere in the wiki or in the "special characters" section  
>> of the "ConTeXt an excursion" excellent document.
>
> Which encoding are you using? Try \texttilde

I'm using utf-8 encoding. \texttilde works great, thanks :) It outputs 
a tilda that is a bit high but i don't know if a lower one exists. 
Thanks a lot!

>> -> How could I do french guillemets (<< and >>)? Is it possible?
>
> Which inputregime are you using? With \enableregime[utf], you can  
> input them directly, or try \leftguillemot and \rightguillemot (yes,  
> the names are moronic, but that's Adobe's fault)

I'm using \enableregime[utf]. I should find the french guillemets :) 
But \leftguillemot and \rightguillemot are working fine.

Thanks a lot for all answers :)
-AJ

Re: lot of newbie questions

[toto]

Quoting "Thomas A. Schmitz" <thomas.schmitz@uni-bonn.de>:

> On Dec 2, 2005, at 8:30 AM, toto@tots-ns.net wrote:
>
>> -> How could I do french guillemets (<< and >>)? Is it possible?
>
> Which inputregime are you using? With \enableregime[utf], you can  
> input them directly, or try \leftguillemot and \rightguillemot (yes,  
> the names are moronic, but that's Adobe's fault)

For information: I've tried to type them directly on my keybord. They 
apear on my screen but the final pdf document output black rectangles. 
(I'm sure that all what I use is configured to use and produce utf8)
But the workaround with \leftguillemot and \rightguillemot is fine for me.

Thanks for all.

-AJ

Re: lot of newbie questions

[toto]

Quoting Jörg Hagmann <joerg.hagmann@unibas.ch>:

> On Dec 2, 2005, at 8:30 AM, toto@tots-ns.net wrote:
>
>> -> I'm trying to put a metapost graphic in the margin like te
>> example in the manual reference (page 47) using the following
>> command:
>> \definestartstop[important][command={\inmarge{\useMPgraphic{bang}
>> [width=\marginwidth]}}]
>> But (of course :) it does not work at all and put some blank pages.
>> Any idea?
>
> I also tried, following the manual, "\inmarge" and then learned that
> it is Dutch and doesn't work with the (mewer) version I had. Use
> "\inmargin" instead.

ok. With \inmargin it works fine. But my optional parameter
[width=\marginwidth] is not allowed here. How could I tell to scale my
graphic without saying it directly when creating the metapost graphic?

Thanks a lot
-AJ

Re: lot of newbie questions

[Hans Hagen]

toto@tots-ns.net wrote:

> Quoting "Thomas A. Schmitz" <thomas.schmitz@uni-bonn.de>:
>
>> On Dec 2, 2005, at 8:30 AM, toto@tots-ns.net wrote:
>>
>>> -> How could I do french guillemets (<< and >>)? Is it possible?
>>
>>
>> Which inputregime are you using? With \enableregime[utf], you can  
>> input them directly, or try \leftguillemot and \rightguillemot (yes,  
>> the names are moronic, but that's Adobe's fault)
>
>
> For information: I've tried to type them directly on my keybord. They 
> apear on my screen but the final pdf document output black rectangles. 
> (I'm sure that all what I use is configured to use and produce utf8)
> But the workaround with \leftguillemot and \rightguillemot is fine for 
> me.

hm, this normally means that there is no correspondence between the utf 
vector's slot and a glyph ... meybe we need a fix?

Hans

Re: lot of newbie questions

[Adam Lindsay]

Hans Hagen wrote:
> toto@tots-ns.net wrote:
 >
>> For information: I've tried to type them directly on my keybord. They 
>> apear on my screen but the final pdf document output black rectangles. 
>> (I'm sure that all what I use is configured to use and produce utf8)
>> But the workaround with \leftguillemot and \rightguillemot is fine for 
>> me.
> 
> 
> hm, this normally means that there is no correspondence between the utf 
> vector's slot and a glyph ... meybe we need a fix?

Just tried it with default LM, ec, and texnansi. No problem that I can 
see.  Question to toto:
What's your font setup for the document?
(Someone asked what encoding, you answered UTF-8, which in ConTeXt 
parlance is the input "regime". We're also asking about the font's 
output "encoding".  More at:
  http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Encodings_and_Regimes   )
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Re: lot of newbie questions

[toto]

Quoting Adam Lindsay <atl@comp.lancs.ac.uk>:
> Hans Hagen wrote:
>> toto@tots-ns.net wrote:
>>
>>> For information: I've tried to type them directly on my keybord. 
>>> They apear on my screen but the final pdf document output black 
>>> rectangles. (I'm sure that all what I use is configured to use and 
>>> produce utf8)
>>> But the workaround with \leftguillemot and \rightguillemot is fine for me.
>>
>> hm, this normally means that there is no correspondence between the 
>> utf vector's slot and a glyph ... meybe we need a fix?
>
> Just tried it with default LM, ec, and texnansi. No problem that I 
> can see.  Question to toto:
> What's your font setup for the document?

No font selecting command. It seems to be cm. I use two commands into 
my document without knowing beeing sure of what they do:
\useencoding[utf8] and \enableregime[utf]

> (Someone asked what encoding, you answered UTF-8, which in ConTeXt 
> parlance is the input "regime". We're also asking about the font's 
> output "encoding".  More at:
>  http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Encodings_and_Regimes   )

I have no \usetypescript or \setupbodyfont commands.

Cheers
-AJ

Re: lot of newbie questions

[Mojca Miklavec]

toto@tots-ns.net wrote:

> -> How could I do french guillemets (<< and >>)? Is it possible?

You can also use \quotation:

\enableregime[utf]
\mainlanguage[fr] % if you're writing in French
\starttext
Both «a» and \quotation{a} work OK here.
\stoptext

Btw:
- \useencoding[utf8] has no sense
- You are free to use \rightguillemet, so you don't need to depend on
Adobe naming scheme unless you work on low level with fonts.


Mojca

Re: lot of newbie questions

[toto]

Quoting Mojca Miklavec <mojca.miklavec.lists@gmail.com>:

> toto@tots-ns.net wrote:
>
>> -> How could I do french guillemets (<< and >>)? Is it possible?
>
> You can also use \quotation:
>
> \enableregime[utf]
> \mainlanguage[fr] % if you're writing in French
> \starttext
> Both «a» and \quotation{a} work OK here.
> \stoptext
>
> Btw:
> - \useencoding[utf8] has no sense
> - You are free to use \rightguillemet, so you don't need to depend on
> Adobe naming scheme unless you work on low level with fonts.

Thanks a lot for your perfect answer :)
-AJ