From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/26134 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Fabian Doerk Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: BibTeX and \placelistoffloats questions Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 14:55:37 +0100 Message-ID: <20060222135537.GD18777@planless.org> References: <20060221181712.GB18777@planless.org> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1140616919 24746 80.91.229.2 (22 Feb 2006 14:01:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 14:01:59 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Wed Feb 22 15:01:49 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FBuYW-0004t4-Gx for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 15:01:24 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D72B12775; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 15:01:24 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 18994-03; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 15:01:21 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FEA912798; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 15:01:21 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06C4D12798 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 14:56:20 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 18994-02-3 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 14:56:18 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from idoru.planless.org (idoru.planless.org [213.95.21.236]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with SMTP id DB8A512775 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 14:56:18 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from brainw by idoru.planless.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1FBuSv-0005zq-00 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 14:55:37 +0100 Original-To: ntg-context@ntg.nl Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060221181712.GB18777@planless.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 15:01:18 +0100 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:26134 Archived-At: Hi Taco, Taco wrote: >>>>1. BibTeX xrefs: >>>> Is it possible to get interactive references (maybe even with >>>> different colour than the global interaction color) from the \cite >>>> command to the referring entry in the publicationlist working at the >>>> moment? >>> >>>What \cite style are you using? I can probably make something work >>>quickly for all but the authoryear(s) style(s). >> >> I'am using the following setup and referring to the .bib file by \cite[key]: > >I have two different solutions available: > >% for the 'official version': >\def\dobibshort#1% > {\addthisref{#1}\refsep > \doifbibreferencefoundelse{#1}{\goto{\getvalue{@@pbs}}[#1]}{??}} > >% for the beta: >\def\dobibshortref#1% > {\addthisref{#1}\refsep > \doifbibreferencefoundelse{#1}{\goto{\getvalue{pbds-#1}}[#1]}{??}} > >Put one of these (or even both) in your environment, somewhere after >\usemodule[bib], and you should be set. Great! Thats exactly what i'am looking for! :) Please make this available in the next release as option, perhaps to \setupcite? It is quite useful for reading large documents on screen when you're able to jump forward to the publication list and back to the referring text to read on (the backward jump requires reader support). >About those hyperlinks: it would normally be something like a chapter >number, and it would link back to the chapter head itself. In a >bibliography, it just points to itself, because the 'main reference' >is the item in the list. Maybe I can make a link back to the first >cited location. Would that make sense? I'am not sure in which scenarios the reverse referencing to the first usage makes sense. Perhaps its more useful if the bibtex entry gets an associated list of forward references and make this list available for usage in \setuppublicationlayout. See the following exemplary publicationlist entry: [KKY03] D. Katz, K. Kompella, and D. Yeung. "RFC3630: Traffic Engineering (TE) Extensions to OSPF Version 2" (September, 2003). Status: PROPOSED STANDARD. Source: http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3630.txt Pages: 23, 34, 37, 61 But I haven't neither an idea of the complexity to implement it nor of the realisability et al. What do you think of this idea? Makes it more sense to you than the "first cited reverse reference"? Thanks for your help Taco! :) Fabian