From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/26369 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: frantisek holop Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: \page inside a block Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 22:50:42 +0100 Message-ID: <20060316215042.GB13262@obiit.org> References: <20060315235342.GI11831@obiit.org> <44194036.4000500@wxs.nl> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1142546004 16795 80.91.229.2 (16 Mar 2006 21:53:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 21:53:24 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Thu Mar 16 22:53:13 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FK0OV-0005fu-7j for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 22:52:33 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8D7112797; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 22:52:30 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 26152-07; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 22:52:30 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B44211278B; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 22:50:45 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC7321278B for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 22:50:44 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 26152-06 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 22:50:43 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from integer.obiit.org (integer.obiit.org [195.168.92.92]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with SMTP id 201AA1276B for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 22:50:42 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: by integer.obiit.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8468F96F40; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 22:50:42 +0100 (CET) Original-To: ntg-context@ntg.nl Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <44194036.4000500@wxs.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:26369 Archived-At: black magic, all of it! i tell you! :))) well, Hans, i guess your middle name is \T for \TeX :) > > when the poem gets long, i need to start a new page obviously. > > but page is not working. what am i missing here? > > > that it's unbreakable stuff (vbox) > > also, using \page is one thing, good for me, so i could tell, > > flush the page right here, but i thought i'll get an automatic > > pagebreak when the text gets to the bottom.... > > > actually, this is a rather complex situation; one could use a tabulate i myself had this feeling that the columns will not behave if longer than a page. but i had my fingers crossed, because they are set up as "paragraphs" (\setupparagraphs), and paragraphs don't have problems with page break, do they? but after sending the mail, it just occured to me, that in this special case, poems, static text, don't need much flexibility or automagic, so doing a \startpoem \section{poem} \poem\startlines line 1 line 2 \stoplines\stoppoem \page\startpoem \poem\startlines line 3 line 4 \stoplines\stoppoem \stoptext does exactly what i want :))) nevertheless what you just did there was very impressive.... i will study it in details, but i am not a great tex master. i'd like to do context/books for a living, but until it's only a hobby, it just needs too much effort learning all the stuff, and to "keep in shape". my biggest problem with starting context is the lack of examples. it is not hard to find .tex files for latex, but context is different... i think it would certainly help heaps if the manual source was released, just like the \TeXbook's... at least the old manual's sources... i think i have read something about this issue, but i don't remember where or when :) i know it must be an awful lot of work to make impressive manuals like that, but they are not sold commercionally, are they? is it not the aim to make context more widespread? so when we post a question here about a silly layout problem, hundreds and hundreds of people would answer :))) i will certainly try to put more examples into the wiki, after i understand them :) -f -- one family builds a wall, two families enjoy it.