From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/26618 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: stappers@stappers.nl (Geert Stappers) Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: documents to (print and) read Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 16:15:32 +0200 Message-ID: <20060329141532.GW28764@gpm.stappers.nl> References: <200603232036.43104.graumann@caltech.edu> <4423B7F0.6050700@wxs.nl> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0558850711==" X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1143643619 5333 80.91.229.2 (29 Mar 2006 14:46:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 14:46:59 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Wed Mar 29 16:46:50 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FObwd-0005lu-RL for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 16:46:47 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 844B212799; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 16:46:47 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 19720-05; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 16:46:47 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB7C2127A6; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 16:15:44 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4733B1279F for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 16:15:42 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 18931-02-6 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 16:15:41 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from gpm.stappers.nl (gpm.stappers.nl [213.84.119.166]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with SMTP id 0659B1279C for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 16:15:40 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by gpm.stappers.nl (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B6C21794B5; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 16:15:32 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: ntg-context@ntg.nl In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040722i X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:26618 Archived-At: --===============0558850711== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="hOcCNbCCxyk/YU74" Content-Disposition: inline --hOcCNbCCxyk/YU74 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Mar 28, 2006 at 06:12:30PM +0200, Jano Kula wrote: >=20 [ "&emdash;" expected to be defined ]=20 >=20 > > Here is the hint - needs to be wikified now ... -)=20 >=20 > I can't resist to do so (that's why I need an explanation), cause as a=20 > newbie I see the only weakness of the ConTeXt in the lack of documentatio= n. >=20 > Well, there is a lot of it, maybe there is too much of it spread all=20 > over the different places (that's why wiki is here), maybe I'm not=20 > familiar enough with ConTeXt yet, but as a long term user of LaTeX I'm=20 > still quite confused after a week or so of browsing through the=20 > documentation, trying to find out how the things work and how they are=20 > related. Well, it took some time to understand LaTeX, too. I would buy=20 > the book mentioned here immediatelly. >=20 > These are not complaints, just another hint how to smooth starting with= =20 > ConTeXt. As I see the possibilities I become addicted ;) and I do=20 > understand the developers have a lot of work with developing. >=20 > Would anybody who suggests the wikifying mind the proper place to put it= =20 > in the wiki, if known? Or I shouldn't care and the administators tide it= =20 > up occasionally. As a newbie I might not to think of writing to wiki,=20 > but better something than nothing, right? >=20 > As the new one here, I can add some small examples as I learn and test=20 > the things, what would be nice for the newcomers, if somebody=20 > experienced would add to wiki an explanation of the documentations in=20 > terms of user experience >=20 > 1. "must read" > 2. how the things work (texexec, etc.) > 3. simple topics > 4. advanced features >=20 > If I see the all-manuals page (http://www.pragma-ade.com/show-man.pdf) I= =20 > really don't know where to start. All the titles look so interesting!=20 > Such overview could postpone the temptation to seek for advanced topic=20 > and subsequently get lost, as in my case. (Might be only my fault.) Here the very same situation. My question boils down to Which document should I print, book bundle and read. (Reading the "wrong" manual is only "lost time", printing the wrong manual is waste of time AND materiaals ... ) >=20 > Sorry for the desperade bigginer's notes, hope they help. To finish it=20 > why I can't get these two (advanced) pages? >=20 > http://www.pragma-ade.com/makeres.html > http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/xcorresp.pdf_Serial_Letters On which page were to broken links (404s) encountered? >=20 > Looking forward to use ConTeXt, >=20 > Jano Geert --hOcCNbCCxyk/YU74 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFEKpaEOSINbgwa/7sRAraNAJ9F6QZeb+1qaPry8cwme0Uj/ZK6TACgttpP cU1fnCKUFJ+aMaWWut0cGUs= =mEIO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --hOcCNbCCxyk/YU74-- --===============0558850711== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context --===============0558850711==--