From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/28144 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "John R. Culleton" Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Index sorting for other languages that English Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 09:41:08 -0400 Organization: WexfordPress Message-ID: <200605230941.08982.john@wexfordpress.com> References: <20060523102222.08256596@mx1.kerio.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1148391939 9436 80.91.229.2 (23 May 2006 13:45:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 13:45:39 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Tue May 23 15:45:30 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FiXCF-00042F-Tm for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Tue, 23 May 2006 15:45:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F02D127BE; Tue, 23 May 2006 15:45:15 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 28906-09; Tue, 23 May 2006 15:45:08 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37D3F127B2; Tue, 23 May 2006 15:45:08 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6191127B2 for ; Tue, 23 May 2006 15:45:06 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 28920-06 for ; Tue, 23 May 2006 15:45:03 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mta9.adelphia.net (mta9.adelphia.net [68.168.78.199]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with SMTP id E4991127AA for ; Tue, 23 May 2006 15:45:00 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from 69-174-128-193.frdrmd.adelphia.net ([69.174.128.193]) by mta9.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20060523134455.SUFA8718.mta9.adelphia.net@69-174-128-193.frdrmd.adelphia.net> for ; Tue, 23 May 2006 09:44:55 -0400 Original-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 In-Reply-To: <20060523102222.08256596@mx1.kerio.com> Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:28144 Archived-At: On Tuesday 23 May 2006 06:22, Richard Gabriel wrote: > Hello Hans, > > after an upgrade I noticed thar the index sorting works even worse than > before (tested on Czech, Chinese and Japanese, but probably related to > non-ASCII characters in common). > > With TeXExec 5.4.3, all words beginning with national (accented) characters > were put into a separate ("symbols") group and placed before "A". This was > not good but more or less acceptable. With TeXExec 6.2.0, words beginning > with accented characters are placed under certain unaccented letter. My > colleague found out that these words are sorted according the first > unaccented letter. This is unacceptable and unusable. > > We do a "work-around" so we try to avoid indexing words beginning with > accented charaters. But it's impossible in many cases. I'd like to ask you > to improve the index sorting. Could I help or contribute in some way? > > Attached is a testing file, which creates 2 indexes from various Czech > words (covering the Czech alphabet). The index should be sorted exactly > that way as the terms are written in the file. > > Thanks, > Richard Try Xindy. It has facilities for sorting according to arbitrary alphabetic orders including Czech. It fits in the workflow much as does makeindex, but perhaps it could be adapted to a Context runstream. -- John Culleton Books with answers to marketing and publishing questions: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/shortlist.pdf Book coaches, consultants and packagers: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/packagers.pdf