Re: Hardcoded options in the Ruby scripts

Re: Hardcoded options in the Ruby scripts

[Richard Gabriel]

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Hello Hans,

thanks for the answer. 

> (adding a user inferface is more that adding something to 
> texexec)
I understand, but I use the English interface for all languages anyway.
Maybe I'm doing something wrong or in a non-standard way...
For processing files with ConTeXt, I have a script which does (simplified to the minimum):

texmfstart texexec --interface=cont-$1 $2

So when I started to experiment with Chinese and Japanese, for example, I naturally wanted the processing to be consistent with other languages. I've simply "cloned" the cont-en.tex format file into cont-cn.tex and cont-ja.tex and defined the default language, default encoding etc. in them. And created new formats. But I had to add these new formats into scripts/ruby/base/tex.rb in order to generate and use them. In case of ConTeXt update, I have to do this change again and again. That's the reason why I've suggested to put these definitons into a separate (user) file.

>> 2. "Make all" should make ALL the defined ConTeXt formats, not the 
>> default ones.
  >--all means: all patterns 

Mmm, sorry... I forgot that there are many formats other than cont-*... :-/
What does "all patterns" mean?
Before altering the tex.rb script, I've tried "texexec --make --all" several times, and it had always rebuilt the 'cont-en', 'cont-nl' and 'mptopdf' formats (maybe also 'metafun'(?);  I'm not completely sure...).

-Richard
 
  


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From: Hans Hagen [mailto:pragma@wxs.nl]
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Sent: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 14:42:05 +0200
Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Hardcoded options in the Ruby scripts

Richard Gabriel wrote:
  >
  > Lines 131-137:
  > Here are a few languages predefined which texexec "knows". If I want 
  > to add a format for another language, I have to add a new line here.
  such as ...? (adding a user inferface is more that adding something to 
  texexec)
  >
  > Line 339:
  > Here are the "default" TeX formats defined. No problem to consider 
  > something as default ;-), but the point is that "texexec --make --all" 
  > actually does "make all DEFAULT formats", NOT "make all AVAILABLE 
  > formats". :-(
  which would be quite a lot -) what do you mean with all?
  >
  > Anyway, the main problem I see is altering of a script which comes 
  > with the ConTeXt distribution - the changes made into this scripts 
  > must be done again and again after each update.
  >
  > My suggestion is:
  > 1. To put the format definition into a separate file (like user.rb or 
  > so) which won't be owerwritten in any case.
  > [Note: cont-usr.tex is a good analogy to this]
  hm, must think about it ; i don't like too many dependencies
  >
  > 2. "Make all" should make ALL the defined ConTeXt formats, not the 
  > default ones.
  --all means: all patterns 
  
  Hans 
   
  
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Re: Hardcoded options in the Ruby scripts

[Hans Hagen]

Richard Gabriel wrote:
>
> Lines 131-137:
> Here are a few languages predefined which texexec "knows". If I want 
> to add a format for another language, I have to add a new line here.
such as ...? (adding a user inferface is more that adding something to 
texexec)
>
> Line 339:
> Here are the "default" TeX formats defined. No problem to consider 
> something as default ;-), but the point is that "texexec --make --all" 
> actually does "make all DEFAULT formats", NOT "make all AVAILABLE 
> formats". :-(
which would be quite a lot -) what do you mean with all?
>
> Anyway, the main problem I see is altering of a script which comes 
> with the ConTeXt distribution - the changes made into this scripts 
> must be done again and again after each update.
>
> My suggestion is:
> 1. To put the format definition into a separate file (like user.rb or 
> so) which won't be owerwritten in any case.
> [Note: cont-usr.tex is a good analogy to this]
hm, must think about it ; i don't like too many dependencies
>
> 2. "Make all" should make ALL the defined ConTeXt formats, not the 
> default ones.
--all means: all patterns 

Hans 
 

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Hardcoded options in the Ruby scripts

[Richard Gabriel]

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Hello Hans,

I'm still wondering why there are certain formats hardcoded in your scripts and how the "make all formats" feature does (not work).

See scripts/ruby/base/tex.rb:

Lines 131-137:
Here are a few languages predefined which texexec "knows". If I want to add a format for another language, I have to add a new line here.

Line 339: 
Here are the "default" TeX formats defined. No problem to consider something as default ;-), but the point is that "texexec --make --all" actually does "make all DEFAULT formats", NOT "make all AVAILABLE formats". :-(

Anyway, the main problem I see is altering of a script which comes with the ConTeXt distribution - the changes made into this scripts must be done again and again after each update.

My suggestion is:
1. To put the format definition into a separate file (like user.rb or so) which won't be owerwritten in any case. 
[Note: cont-usr.tex is a good analogy to this]

2. "Make all" should make ALL the defined ConTeXt formats, not the default ones.

Thanks,
Richard

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