New Debian context package based on context release 061207

New Debian context package based on context release 061207

[Norbert Preining]

Hi all!

I have created a new context package 2006.12.07-0.1 for Debian and would
like to hear your comments and test. No big changes:
  * new upstream
  * suggest fontforge, and let texfont call fontforge instead of pfaedit
  * add dpatch build-dep and adjust rules
As usual available from
  deb(-src) http://www.tug.org/texlive/Debian/ context/

There seem to be some deep changes in the upstream packaging, as various
map files are now missing from the cont-tmf.zip file. The debdiff
between the old and the new packages gives me:
Files in second .deb but not in first
-------------------------------------
/usr/share/texmf/fonts/enc/dvips/context/cmin.enc
/usr/share/texmf/fonts/enc/dvips/context/cmit.enc
/usr/share/texmf/fonts/enc/dvips/context/cmitt.enc
/usr/share/texmf/fonts/enc/dvips/context/cmrm.enc
/usr/share/texmf/fonts/enc/dvips/context/cmsc.enc
/usr/share/texmf/fonts/enc/dvips/context/cmtt.enc
/usr/share/texmf/fonts/enc/dvips/context/teff-trinite.enc
/usr/share/texmf/fonts/enc/dvips/jmn/hans.enc
/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-new.mkii
/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/core-blk.tex
/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/core-buf.mkii
/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/core-con.mkii
/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/core-ctx.tex
/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/core-lme.tex
/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/core-obj.mkii
/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/core-pos.mkii
/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/core-stg.tex
/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/core-sys.mkii
/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/core-trf.tex
/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/core-two.mkii
/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/core-two.tex
/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/core-uti.mkii
/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/core-ver.mkii
/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/enco-xtx.tex
/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/lang-mis.tex
/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/lang-sla.mkii
/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/meta-mis.tex
/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/meta-pdf.mkii
/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/mult-fst.tex
/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/regi-8859-1.tex
/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/regi-8859-10.tex
/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/regi-8859-13.tex
/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/regi-8859-15.tex
/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/regi-8859-16.tex
/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/regi-8859-2.tex
/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/regi-8859-3.tex
/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/regi-8859-4.tex
/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/regi-8859-5.tex
/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/regi-8859-7.tex
/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/regi-8859-9.tex
/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/regi-ini.mkii
/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/regi-run.mkii
/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/s-map-10.tex
/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/s-ptj-01.tex
/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/spec-def.mkii
/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/spec-fdf.mkii
/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/supp-fil.mkii
/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/syst-cat.mkii
/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/syst-cat.tex
/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/syst-chr.tex
/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/syst-con.mkii
/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/syst-fnt.tex
/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/syst-mtx.tex
/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/syst-pdt.tex
/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/syst-rtp.mkii
/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/syst-rtp.tex
/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/syst-str.mkii
/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/syst-str.tex
/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/thrd-pic.tex
/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/x-res-12.tex
/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/x-res-20.tex
/usr/bin/luatools
/usr/bin/mtxtools

Files in first .deb but not in second
-------------------------------------
/usr/share/texmf/fonts/enc/dvips/context/ec-sc.enc
/usr/share/texmf/fonts/enc/dvips/context/lm-texnansi-osfsc.enc
/usr/share/texmf/fonts/enc/dvips/context/texnansi-sc.enc
/usr/share/texmf/fonts/enc/dvips/lm/cmin.enc
/usr/share/texmf/fonts/enc/dvips/lm/cmit.enc
/usr/share/texmf/fonts/enc/dvips/lm/cmitt.enc
/usr/share/texmf/fonts/enc/dvips/lm/cmrm.enc
/usr/share/texmf/fonts/enc/dvips/lm/cmsc.enc
/usr/share/texmf/fonts/enc/dvips/lm/cmtt.enc
/usr/share/texmf/fonts/enc/dvips/lm/csin.enc
/usr/share/texmf/fonts/enc/dvips/lm/csrm.enc
/usr/share/texmf/fonts/enc/dvips/lm/cssc.enc
/usr/share/texmf/fonts/enc/dvips/lm/cstt.enc
/usr/share/texmf/fonts/enc/dvips/lm/ec-lm.enc
/usr/share/texmf/fonts/enc/dvips/lm/plin.enc
/usr/share/texmf/fonts/enc/dvips/lm/plit.enc
/usr/share/texmf/fonts/enc/dvips/lm/plitt.enc
/usr/share/texmf/fonts/enc/dvips/lm/plrm.enc
/usr/share/texmf/fonts/enc/dvips/lm/plsc.enc
/usr/share/texmf/fonts/enc/dvips/lm/pltt.enc
/usr/share/texmf/fonts/enc/dvips/lm/qx-lm.enc
/usr/share/texmf/fonts/enc/dvips/lm/qx-lmtt.enc
/usr/share/texmf/fonts/enc/dvips/lm/t5-lm.enc
/usr/share/texmf/fonts/enc/dvips/lm/texnansi-lm.enc
/usr/share/texmf/fonts/enc/dvips/lm/ts1-lm.enc
/usr/share/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/context/ec-lm.map
/usr/share/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/context/el-lm.map
/usr/share/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/context/qx-lm.map
/usr/share/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/context/t5-lm.map
/usr/share/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/context/texnansi-lm.map
/usr/share/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/context/ts1-lm.map
/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/font-map.tex
/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/regi-iso-8859-1.tex
/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/regi-iso-8859-15.tex
/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/regi-iso-8859-2.tex
/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/regi-iso-8859-7.tex

If someone can explain me the big changes? Something like: We don't need
the map files anymore or so would be nice.

Best wishes

Norbert

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Re: New Debian context package based on context release 061207

[Taco Hoekwater]

Norbert Preining wrote:
> 
> If someone can explain me the big changes? Something like: We don't need
> the map files anymore or so would be nice.

Yes, this all looks fine. The removed .encs and .maps were already
obsolete for a while now. A few others were moved around by request
from texlive, and the new .mkii files are side-effect of internal
reorganization. All OK.

Best, Taco

Re: [NTG-context] New Debian context package based on context release 061207

[Norbert Preining]

Hi Taco!

On Son, 10 Dez 2006, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> Yes, this all looks fine. The removed .encs and .maps were already
> obsolete for a while now. A few others were moved around by request
> from texlive, and the new .mkii files are side-effect of internal
> reorganization. All OK.

Great, thanks a lot for the explanation.

Now, if you could get my hand on some relatively complicated documents I
can check for correct operation. I have all TeX live plus a huge amount
of fonts (also commercial ones) installed, so if someone has a nice
document for testing, please send me the source and the "correct" pdf so
I can do checks. Thanks a lot.

Best wishes

Norbert

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Re: [NTG-context] New Debian context package based on context release 061207

[Norbert Preining]

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Hi Taco!

On Son, 10 Dez 2006, Norbert Preining wrote:
> Now, if you could get my hand on some relatively complicated documents I
> can check for correct operation. I have all TeX live plus a huge amount
> of fonts (also commercial ones) installed, so if someone has a nice
> document for testing, please send me the source and the "correct" pdf so
> I can do checks. Thanks a lot.

I tried the mreadme.tex and it didn't work, is it supposed to work?

$ texexec mreadme.tex
...
! Undefined control sequence.
l.54 \TitlePage
               {titlepage}{90}{Read Me First}{}{1}

Full log file attached.

Any suggestions?

Best wishes

Norbert

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Re: New Debian context package based on context release 061207

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Sun, 10 Dec 2006, Norbert Preining wrote:

> Hi Taco!
>
> On Son, 10 Dez 2006, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
>> Yes, this all looks fine. The removed .encs and .maps were already
>> obsolete for a while now. A few others were moved around by request
>> from texlive, and the new .mkii files are side-effect of internal
>> reorganization. All OK.
>
> Great, thanks a lot for the explanation.
>
> Now, if you could get my hand on some relatively complicated documents I
> can check for correct operation. I have all TeX live plus a huge amount
> of fonts (also commercial ones) installed, so if someone has a nice
> document for testing, please send me the source and the "correct" pdf so
> I can do checks.

Nothing fancy, but can you test the files at 
http://tug.org/pracjourn/2006-4/mahajan/assignments.tar.gz

This is a simple document that uses URW-Pallatino fonts and some mp 
backgrounds. Sanjoy had some trouble with the fonts due to missing map 
files. If the document compiles correctly, it will verify that the 
URW-Pallatino map files are correct. Simply unzip the files and

    cd assignments/EECS401
    texmfstart texexec --mode=solution assignment-01

The output should look like
http://tug.org/pracjourn/2006-4/mahajan/assignment-01-s.pdf

Aditya

Re: New Debian context package based on context release 061207

[Norbert Preining]

Hi Aditya!

On Son, 10 Dez 2006, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
> This is a simple document that uses URW-Pallatino fonts and some mp 
> backgrounds. Sanjoy had some trouble with the fonts due to missing map 
> files. If the document compiles correctly, it will verify that the 
> URW-Pallatino map files are correct. Simply unzip the files and

Nup, doesn't work:
	kpathsea: Running mktextfm texnansi-uplr8a
Is this a context problem or do I have some fonts missing?

Best wishes

Norbert

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Re: New Debian context package based on context release 061207

[Taco Hoekwater]

Norbert Preining wrote:
> Hi Aditya!
> 
> On Son, 10 Dez 2006, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
> 
>>This is a simple document that uses URW-Pallatino fonts and some mp 
>>backgrounds. Sanjoy had some trouble with the fonts due to missing map 
>>files. If the document compiles correctly, it will verify that the 
>>URW-Pallatino map files are correct. Simply unzip the files and
> 
> 
> Nup, doesn't work:
> 	kpathsea: Running mktextfm texnansi-uplr8a
> Is this a context problem or do I have some fonts missing?

Probably a case of fonts missing. Those fonts are in cont-fnt.zip that
is not in TeXLive (nor will it be added anytime soon). But FWIW, this
means the bits you do have installed, do work as expected.

Best,

Taco

Re: [NTG-context] New Debian context package based on context release 061207

[Norbert Preining]

Hi Taco!

On Mon, 11 Dez 2006, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> >Nup, doesn't work:
> >	kpathsea: Running mktextfm texnansi-uplr8a
> >Is this a context problem or do I have some fonts missing?
> 
> Probably a case of fonts missing. Those fonts are in cont-fnt.zip that
> is not in TeXLive (nor will it be added anytime soon). But FWIW, this
> means the bits you do have installed, do work as expected.

Ok. Would it make sense to pack them together with the cont-tmf.zip in
the Debian context package?

Best wishes

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Re: [NTG-context] New Debian context package based on context release 061207

[Taco Hoekwater]

Norbert Preining wrote:
> Hi Taco!
> 
> On Mon, 11 Dez 2006, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> 
>>>Nup, doesn't work:
>>>	kpathsea: Running mktextfm texnansi-uplr8a
>>>Is this a context problem or do I have some fonts missing?
>>
>>Probably a case of fonts missing. Those fonts are in cont-fnt.zip that
>>is not in TeXLive (nor will it be added anytime soon). But FWIW, this
>>means the bits you do have installed, do work as expected.
> 
> Ok. Would it make sense to pack them together with the cont-tmf.zip in
> the Debian context package?

That depends on whether you want your packages to be one-on-one 
compatible with TeXLive or not, and that is something you should
decide for yourself. From my side this is a no-brainer: the more
context support, the better.

Best, Taco

Re: New Debian context package based on context release 061207

[Norbert Preining]

On Mon, 11 Dez 2006, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> That depends on whether you want your packages to be one-on-one 
> compatible with TeXLive or not, and that is something you should

No, the more the better.

> decide for yourself. From my side this is a no-brainer: the more
> context support, the better.

I didn't include it since I THOUGHT that everything is contained already
in the cont-tmf.zip file.

What else would make sense?
- cont-tmf.zip
- cont-fnt.zip
- cont-img.zip ???
- cont-ext.zip ???
- anything else?

Best wishes

Norbert

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Re: [NTG-context] New Debian context package based on context release 061207

[Taco Hoekwater]

Norbert Preining wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Dez 2006, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> 
>>That depends on whether you want your packages to be one-on-one 
>>compatible with TeXLive or not, and that is something you should
> 
> No, the more the better.
> 
>>decide for yourself. From my side this is a no-brainer: the more
>>context support, the better.
> 
> I didn't include it since I THOUGHT that everything is contained already
> in the cont-tmf.zip file.
> 
> What else would make sense?
> - cont-tmf.zip
> - cont-fnt.zip
> - cont-img.zip ???
> - cont-ext.zip ???

The most important ones (besides cont-tmf) are cont-fnt and cont-ext.
cont-img is nice, but not that important (only a few example images).

Hans, anything else?

Taco

Re: New Debian context package based on context release 061207

[Norbert Preining]

Hi Taco!

(BTW: Sorry for bothering with all this, and thanks for the support!)

On Mon, 11 Dez 2006, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> >What else would make sense?
> >- cont-tmf.zip
> >- cont-fnt.zip
> >- cont-img.zip ???
> >- cont-ext.zip ???
> 
> The most important ones (besides cont-tmf) are cont-fnt and cont-ext.
> cont-img is nice, but not that important (only a few example images).

Are all of them DFSG free? cont-tmf I know, about the others I don't
know. 

If not, I can create two packages which complement each other.

Best wishes

Norbert

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Re: New Debian context package based on context release 061207

[Hans Hagen]

Norbert Preining wrote:
> Hi Taco!
>
> (BTW: Sorry for bothering with all this, and thanks for the support!)
>
> On Mon, 11 Dez 2006, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
>   
>>> What else would make sense?
>>> - cont-tmf.zip
>>> - cont-fnt.zip
>>> - cont-img.zip ???
>>> - cont-ext.zip ???
>>>       
>> The most important ones (besides cont-tmf) are cont-fnt and cont-ext.
>> cont-img is nice, but not that important (only a few example images).
>>     
>
> Are all of them DFSG free? cont-tmf I know, about the others I don't
> know. 
>
>
>   
as far as we know, they're all free (at least, before adding something 
to the ext file, taco tests the structure etc etc); the third party 
modules are collected on the context wiki, fetched from there and merged 
into the ext zip (as well as uploaded automatically to ctan)

Hans

Re: New Debian context package based on context release 061207

[Hans Hagen]

Norbert Preining wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Dez 2006, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
>   
>> That depends on whether you want your packages to be one-on-one 
>> compatible with TeXLive or not, and that is something you should
>>     
>
> No, the more the better.
>
>   
>> decide for yourself. From my side this is a no-brainer: the more
>> context support, the better.
>>     
>
> I didn't include it since I THOUGHT that everything is contained already
> in the cont-tmf.zip file.
>
> What else would make sense?
> - cont-tmf.zip
> - cont-fnt.zip
>   
a bunch of extra tfm files that makes context more happy, also some more 
encodings (texnansi support in tex live is poor while this encoding 
vector suits users best)
> - cont-img.zip ???
>   
this file has some graphics that users can use to test things; the tex 
test files are in the main zip; it is handy to have the img file 
installed because on the mailing list we often do things like

\externalfigure[cow.pdf]

and suchimages then need to be present someplace
> - cont-ext.zip ???
>   
third party stuff; taco manages the process of making them tds/licence 
compliant so including them should be ok
> - anything else?
>   
some day next year there will be an additional zip for luatex support

Thanks,

Hans

Re: New Debian context package based on context release 061207

[Norbert Preining]

Hi Hans!

On Mon, 11 Dez 2006, Hans Hagen wrote:
> >Are all of them DFSG free? cont-tmf I know, about the others I don't
> >know. 
> >  
> as far as we know, they're all free (at least, before adding something 
> to the ext file, taco tests the structure etc etc); the third party 
> modules are collected on the context wiki, fetched from there and merged 
> into the ext zip (as well as uploaded automatically to ctan)

Thanks.

On Mon, 11 Dez 2006, Hans Hagen wrote:
> >What else would make sense?


I have updated the package included all the four zips. Thanks a lot for
the suggestions.

> some day next year there will be an additional zip for luatex support

No problem, will be included, too.

Best wishes

Norbert

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Re: [NTG-context] New Debian context package based on context release 061207

[Norbert Preining]

On Mon, 11 Dez 2006, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> >Nup, doesn't work:
> >	kpathsea: Running mktextfm texnansi-uplr8a
> >Is this a context problem or do I have some fonts missing?
> 
> Probably a case of fonts missing. Those fonts are in cont-fnt.zip that

Thanks, this worked. Nice ...

Best wishes

Norbert

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Re: New Debian context package based on context release 061207

[Sanjoy Mahajan]

> > Nup, doesn't work:
> > 	kpathsea: Running mktextfm texnansi-uplr8a
> > Is this a context problem or do I have some fonts missing?
> 
> Probably a case of fonts missing. Those fonts are in cont-fnt.zip that
> is not in TeXLive (nor will it be added anytime soon). But FWIW, this
> means the bits you do have installed, do work as expected.

I had the same error, which remained after installing cont-fnt.zip.
I'll make a small test case soonish.

-Sanjoy

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Re: [NTG-context] New Debian context package based on context release 061207

[Norbert Preining]

Hi Sanjoy!

On Mon, 11 Dez 2006, Sanjoy Mahajan wrote:
> > > Nup, doesn't work:
> > > 	kpathsea: Running mktextfm texnansi-uplr8a
> > > Is this a context problem or do I have some fonts missing?
> > 
> > Probably a case of fonts missing. Those fonts are in cont-fnt.zip that
> > is not in TeXLive (nor will it be added anytime soon). But FWIW, this
> > means the bits you do have installed, do work as expected.
> 
> I had the same error, which remained after installing cont-fnt.zip.
> I'll make a small test case soonish.

Here it does work after installation of cont-fnt.zip. Or the current
Debian context package.

Best wishes

Norbert

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Re: New Debian context package based on context release 061207

[Sanjoy Mahajan]

> Here it does work after installation of cont-fnt.zip. Or the current
> Debian context package.

Hmm, I think the mess of tex configuration files in Unix has finally
defeated me, and I will switch to using the debian context package and
will retry Aditya's assignment document.  That will also involve
switching from the tetex-3.0 packages (on Ubuntu) to texlive, which
I've been meaning to do for a while.

I'll try it all tomorrow afternoon.  [Today I am preparing a talk to a
new audience (doctors), and I don't want to risk my mostly working tex
setup until after that!]

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Re: New Debian context package based on context release 061207

[Norbert Preining]

Hi all!

Sorry for the quick updates, but there were some stupid errors in -0.1.

So here is -0.2, which does the following:
- install doc files
- do NOT install any map activation files in /etc/texmf/updmap.d

PLEASE REMOVE 
	/etc/texmf/updmap.d/10context.cfg
	/etc/texmf/updmap.d/20context.cfg
by hand, then call as ROOT
	update-updmap
	updmap-sys

The -0.2 version could compile the pdftex-t.tex file (doc of pdftex), so
I assume that at least basic functionality is here.

On Sam, 09 Dez 2006, Norbert Preining wrote:
> As usual available from
>   deb(-src) http://www.tug.org/texlive/Debian/ context/

Best wishes

Norbert

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Re: New Debian context package based on context release 061207

[Danai SAE-HAN]

Hi Norbert et alii!

From: Norbert Preining <preining@logic.at>

> So here is -0.2, which does the following:
> - install doc files
> - do NOT install any map activation files in /etc/texmf/updmap.d

So if I understand correctly, ConTeXt (which I haven't used yet)
doesn't use the .map files anymore with pdfTeX?  This might be
interesting for the CJK packages.  Or is the change only relevant for
ConTeXt-specific fonts?


Cheers!


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Re: New Debian context package based on context release 061207

[Norbert Preining]

Hi Danai!

On Son, 10 Dez 2006, Danai SAE-HAN wrote:
> > So here is -0.2, which does the following:
> > - install doc files
> > - do NOT install any map activation files in /etc/texmf/updmap.d
> 
> So if I understand correctly, ConTeXt (which I haven't used yet)
> doesn't use the .map files anymore with pdfTeX?  This might be
> interesting for the CJK packages.  Or is the change only relevant for
> ConTeXt-specific fonts?

No, but the map files are installed into
	..../texmf/fonts/map/pdftex/context/...
so that context/pdftex finds them. But there is no need for activation
via updmap as *only* pdftex is used. Or at least this is how I
understand it.

Best wishes

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Re: New Debian context package based on context release 061207

[Hans Hagen]

Norbert Preining wrote:
> Hi Danai!
>
> On Son, 10 Dez 2006, Danai SAE-HAN wrote:
>   
>>> So here is -0.2, which does the following:
>>> - install doc files
>>> - do NOT install any map activation files in /etc/texmf/updmap.d
>>>       
>> So if I understand correctly, ConTeXt (which I haven't used yet)
>> doesn't use the .map files anymore with pdfTeX?  This might be
>> interesting for the CJK packages.  Or is the change only relevant for
>> ConTeXt-specific fonts?
>>     
>
> No, but the map files are installed into
> 	..../texmf/fonts/map/pdftex/context/...
> so that context/pdftex finds them. But there is no need for activation
> via updmap as *only* pdftex is used. Or at least this is how I
> understand it.
>
>   

the problem with a big map file is that it is potentially problematic 
(it definitely was in the past) because there is some fuzzy logic 
involved when embedded files are handled in pdftex;

so, in context, i don't preload all map files, but use \pdfmapfile{...} 
to explicitly load a map file so that we can be sure we have the right 
one -- keep in mind that we can have files on the system with similar 
internal names (the one between " in the map file) but different metric 
(slant, ext, cap,...) ; so, when you have a problem with a missing file 
(reported by pdftex), you can use \loadmapfile[somename.map] in context

Hans