How to make a "natural" table float.

How to make a "natural" table float.

[John R. Culleton]

My task requires alternating whate and gray bars for a table. I was happy to 
jump on the Natural Table facility. Further, I want the table to "float" in 
the classic TeX fashion. I don't know the exact code for this in Context.

This doesn't work:
--------------------------------------------------------------------
\setupcaptions[location=high]
\placetable[here][tab:comp]{Comparison of Corporate and Government Bond 
Portfolios}
\setupTABLE[r][even][background=screen]
\bTABLE
...
\eTABLE
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I get the message:
! Missing { inserted.
etc.

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Re: How to make a "natural" table float.

[John R. Culleton]

On Wednesday 31 January 2007 17:16, John R. Culleton wrote:
> My task requires alternating whate and gray bars for a table. I was happy
> to jump on the Natural Table facility. Further, I want the table to "float"
> in the classic TeX fashion. I don't know the exact code for this in
> Context.
>
> This doesn't work:
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> \setupcaptions[location=high]
> \placetable[here][tab:comp]{Comparison of Corporate and Government Bond
> Portfolios}
> \setupTABLE[r][even][background=screen]
> \bTABLE
> ...
> \eTABLE
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>---------- I get the message:
> ! Missing { inserted.
> etc.

OK I solved that problem by enclosing the table in {} and now the table 
floats. But now I have a wierder one.  The \setupcaptions[location=high] 
command puts the caption alongside the table instead of over it. Unfortunately 
the customer specifies over rather than under. 
-- 
John Culleton
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Re: How to make a "natural" table float.

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Wed, 31 Jan 2007, John R. Culleton wrote:

> My task requires alternating whate and gray bars for a table. I was happy to
> jump on the Natural Table facility. Further, I want the table to "float" in
> the classic TeX fashion. I don't know the exact code for this in Context.
>
> This doesn't work:
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> \setupcaptions[location=high]
> \placetable[here][tab:comp]{Comparison of Corporate and Government Bond
> Portfolios}
{
> \setupTABLE[r][even][background=screen]
> \bTABLE
> ...
> \eTABLE
}

> I get the message:
> ! Missing { inserted.
> etc.

Add the braces: See above.

Aditya

Re: How to make a "natural" table float.

[John R. Culleton]

On Wednesday 31 January 2007 19:31, John R. Culleton wrote:

>
> OK I solved that problem by enclosing the table in {} and now the table
> floats. But now I have a wierder one.  The \setupcaptions[location=high]
> command puts the caption alongside the table instead of over it.
> Unfortunately the customer specifies over rather than under.

To isloate the problem I extracted the table and reran it in a test file:
----------------------------------------------------------------------
\setupoutput[pdftex]
\setupcaptions[location=high]
\starttext
\placetable[here][tab:comp]{Comparison of Corporate and Government Bond 
Portfolios}
{\setupTABLE[r][even][background=screen]
\bTABLE
\bTR
\bTD 
\eTD
\bTD Corporate Portfolio
\eTD
\bTD Government Portfolio
\eTD
\eTR
\bTR
\bTD Starting Value
\eTD
\bTD \$100,000
\eTD
\bTD \$100,000
\eTD
\eTR
\eTABLE
}
\stoptext
----------------------------------------------------------------
The caption still apears to the left side of the table, not above it. 

-- 
John Culleton
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Re: How to make a "natural" table float.

[Peter Rolf]

John R. Culleton wrote:
> On Wednesday 31 January 2007 19:31, John R. Culleton wrote:
> 
>> OK I solved that problem by enclosing the table in {} and now the table
>> floats. But now I have a wierder one.  The \setupcaptions[location=high]
>> command puts the caption alongside the table instead of over it.
>> Unfortunately the customer specifies over rather than under.
> 
> To isloate the problem I extracted the table and reran it in a test file:
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> \setupoutput[pdftex]
> \setupcaptions[location=high]

try "location=top", as high seems to mean something different here (dunno).


Greetings, Peter

> \starttext
> \placetable[here][tab:comp]{Comparison of Corporate and Government Bond 
> Portfolios}
> {\setupTABLE[r][even][background=screen]
> \bTABLE
> \bTR
> \bTD 
> \eTD
> \bTD Corporate Portfolio
> \eTD
> \bTD Government Portfolio
> \eTD
> \eTR
> \bTR
> \bTD Starting Value
> \eTD
> \bTD \$100,000
> \eTD
> \bTD \$100,000
> \eTD
> \eTR
> \eTABLE
> }
> \stoptext
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> The caption still apears to the left side of the table, not above it. 
> 

Re: How to make a "natural" table float.

[Wolfgang Schuster]

On Fri, 2 Feb 2007 11:14:53 -0500
"John R. Culleton" <john@wexfordpress.com> wrote:

> On Wednesday 31 January 2007 19:31, John R. Culleton wrote:
> 
> >
> > OK I solved that problem by enclosing the table in {} and now the table
> > floats. But now I have a wierder one.  The \setupcaptions[location=high]

\setupcaptions[location=top]

The manual is your friend (cont-enp and setup-en).

Wolfgang

> > command puts the caption alongside the table instead of over it.
> > Unfortunately the customer specifies over rather than under.
> 
> To isloate the problem I extracted the table and reran it in a test file:
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> \setupoutput[pdftex]
> \setupcaptions[location=high]
> \starttext
> \placetable[here][tab:comp]{Comparison of Corporate and Government Bond 
> Portfolios}
> {\setupTABLE[r][even][background=screen]
> \bTABLE
> \bTR
> \bTD 
> \eTD
> \bTD Corporate Portfolio
> \eTD
> \bTD Government Portfolio
> \eTD
> \eTR
> \bTR
> \bTD Starting Value
> \eTD
> \bTD \$100,000
> \eTD
> \bTD \$100,000
> \eTD
> \eTR
> \eTABLE
> }
> \stoptext
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> The caption still apears to the left side of the table, not above it. 
> 
> -- 
> John Culleton
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Re: How to make a "natural" table float.

[luigi scarso]

> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> The caption still apears to the left side of the table, not above it.
I will see it this weekend.

Re: How to make a "natural" table float.

[John R. Culleton]

On Friday 02 February 2007 13:29, Peter Rolf wrote:
> John R. Culleton wrote:
> > On Wednesday 31 January 2007 19:31, John R. Culleton wrote:
> >> OK I solved that problem by enclosing the table in {} and now the table
> >> floats. But now I have a wierder one.  The \setupcaptions[location=high]
> >> command puts the caption alongside the table instead of over it.
> >> Unfortunately the customer specifies over rather than under.
> >
> > To isloate the problem I extracted the table and reran it in a test file:
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > \setupoutput[pdftex]
> > \setupcaptions[location=high]
>

Eyes saw "top", brain transliterated it to "high," effect was wrong.  Now I am 
all better. The other effect was interesting though.  I also discovered that 
if I use "placefigure" instead of "placetable" it works but the caption says 
figure instead of table. My customer likes to misname things, like calling 
tables figures, and parts "sections".  This latter aberration is becoming 
common. Context allows me to adapt even to bad nomenclature. 

Thanks to you and Wolfgang.  Frequently my Celtic brain needs Teutonic 
correction :<) 
-- 
John Culleton
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Re: How to make a "natural" table float.

[luigi scarso]

On 2/2/07, Wolfgang Schuster <schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 2 Feb 2007 11:14:53 -0500
> "John R. Culleton" <john@wexfordpress.com> wrote:
>
> > On Wednesday 31 January 2007 19:31, John R. Culleton wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > OK I solved that problem by enclosing the table in {} and now the table
> > > floats. But now I have a wierder one.  The \setupcaptions[location=high]
>
> \setupcaptions[location=top]
>

OK even with last pdftex+context distro
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Re: How to make a "natural" table float.

[Wolfgang Schuster]

On Fri, 2 Feb 2007 15:30:30 -0500
"John R. Culleton" <john@wexfordpress.com> wrote:

> On Friday 02 February 2007 13:29, Peter Rolf wrote:
> > John R. Culleton wrote:
> > > On Wednesday 31 January 2007 19:31, John R. Culleton wrote:
> > >> OK I solved that problem by enclosing the table in {} and now the table
> > >> floats. But now I have a wierder one.  The \setupcaptions[location=high]
> > >> command puts the caption alongside the table instead of over it.
> > >> Unfortunately the customer specifies over rather than under.
> > >
> > > To isloate the problem I extracted the table and reran it in a test file:
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > \setupoutput[pdftex]
> > > \setupcaptions[location=high]
> >
> 
> Eyes saw "top", brain transliterated it to "high," effect was wrong.  Now I am 
> all better. The other effect was interesting though.  I also discovered that 
> if I use "placefigure" instead of "placetable" it works but the caption says 
> figure instead of table. My customer likes to misname things, like calling

Hi John,

you can get same result with placetable by changing the text from table
to figure with \setuplabeltext[table=Figure ]

You see, ConTeXt has better ways to do things like this.

Wolfgang
 
> tables figures, and parts "sections".  This latter aberration is becoming 
> common. Context allows me to adapt even to bad nomenclature. 
> 
> Thanks to you and Wolfgang.  Frequently my Celtic brain needs Teutonic 
> correction :<) 
> -- 
> John Culleton
> Able Indexing and Typesetting
> Precision typesetting (tm) at reasonable cost.
> Satisfaction guaranteed. 
> http://wexfordpress.com
> 
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Re: How to make a "natural" table float.

[Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini]

On 2 Feb 2007 at 19:17, ntg-context-request@ntg.nl wrote:

> \setupcaptions[location=high]

What about 'top'?

Wolfgang