From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/36152 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: frantisek holop Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: setting up quotations Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 00:12:10 +0200 Message-ID: <20070822221210.GD16577@obiit.org> References: <20070822213803.GC16577@obiit.org> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1187820759 4977 80.91.229.12 (22 Aug 2007 22:12:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 22:12:39 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Thu Aug 23 00:12:36 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1INyRH-0003gs-Vc for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Thu, 23 Aug 2007 00:12:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1467C200F2; Thu, 23 Aug 2007 00:12:32 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 26725-09; Thu, 23 Aug 2007 00:12:22 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ACD9200C2; Thu, 23 Aug 2007 00:12:22 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3D36200C2 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2007 00:12:20 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 26746-01 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2007 00:12:14 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from obiit.org (integer.obiit.org [195.168.92.92]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02D36200BF for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2007 00:12:12 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by integer.obiit.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7658ED85C9; Thu, 23 Aug 2007 00:12:11 +0200 (CEST) Mail-Followup-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:36152 Archived-At: hmm, on Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 04:01:12PM -0600, Idris Samawi Hamid said that > Note that ConTeXt by default is rather bland. The defaults are not > intended as some typographic ideal, in contrast to LaTeX. thanks. i realize that flexibility is a plus here, on the other hand creating macros even for the most basic functionality becomes counterproductive at some point. there are great basic building blocks in context. some of them are just not as consistent as the others :) i think consistency and 'logic' helps making the learning curve softer and work easier and faster. for example: \quote -> \setupquote \quotation -> \setupquotation \startquotation -> \setupquotationenvironment :) or some such. the problem is, that the manuals are not really verbose and help create wrong assumptions because at some places context is wonderfully 'logical' and consistent. -f -- prayers are always answered. the answer is usually no. ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________