From: Wolfgang Schuster <schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com>
To: ntg-context@ntg.nl
Subject: Re: waiting for mswincontext
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 20:22:28 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070920202228.571ed808.schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6faad9f00709200618h1077af37q4abb381040e98afb@mail.gmail.com>
On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 15:18:45 +0200
"Mojca Miklavec" <mojca.miklavec.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 9/20/07, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> > Hans Hagen wrote:
> > > Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> > >> On 9/19/07, Hans Hagen wrote:
> > >>> btw,
> > >>>
> > >>> pdftex --ini &plain \\pdfoutput=1 \dump
> > >>>
> > >>> can do the same for you, but as said .. if the minimals would have plain
> > >>> formats they would default to dvi anyway so it would be of no help to you
> > >> pdftex.fmt and mpost.mem would be perfectly fine. No need for
> > >> plain.fmt (I guess). (And maybe xetex.fmt as a sugar, although that
> > >> one might need some additional files.)
> > >
> > > pdftex --ini -fmt=pdftex plain.tex \\pdfoutput=1 \dump
> > >
> > > probably does that, but as said, everyone wants his/her own variant
> > > (patterns to start with -)
> >
> > There is no doubt that plain is useful. I always create the plain
> > Knuth format for luatex and pdftex by hand, and while it would be nice
> > to have it done automatically, it is not that much work, and all real
> > input files are there (.ini's are a commandline convenience).
>
> (In case of XeTeX, it's slightly more that a single line to be typed :)
>
> > If I understood correctly, plain xetex really needs something extra?
> > If that is so, than perhaps that file should be added. Mojca, what's
> > up with that?
>
> xetex.ini looks like that:
>
> \catcode`\{=1 \catcode`\}=2 \catcode`\#=6 \catcode`\^=7 \catcode`\@=11
>
> \input unicode-letters
>
> \let\s@vef@nt=\font
> ... some stuff here
> \lowercase{\def\sk@pf@nt\preloaded=#1^^A{\endgroup}}
>
> \input etex.src
>
> % restore the \font command and undefine other stuff
> \catcode`\@=11
> \let\font=\s@vef@nt
> ... some more stuff here
>
> \dump
> \endinput
>
> So one additionally needs:
> - (possibly modified) xetex.ini itself
> - unicode-letters.tex (could be replaced by enco-utf.tex, though I
> just figured out that there's more in unicode-letters than in
> enco-utf, but in that case enco-utf is that one which should be fixed)
this is not possible with the 0.997dev version because it presets
charclasses (a new feature in XeTeX) for a few CJK characters
> - etex.src (btw: why is that one only used in xetex, but not in pdfTeX?)
this is also used for the pdftex format in w32tex
> - tex-text.tec (which was missing until now but needs to be added anyway)
> - hmmm ... no idea about what is needed for hyphenation (but I guess
> that patterns from ConTeXt could be used as well)
>
> I will test once I have the rest, but it would be really handy to have
> the three plain formats (pdfTeX, XeTeX and mpost available; plus
> luatex if needed).
>
> > On dev-context, I have already proposed the removal of a number of
> > binaries, so I can make that request :-)
>
> ;) 3-times hurray for Taco :)
>
> Mojca
Wolfgang
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Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <mailman.1.1190023202.9795.ntg-context@ntg.nl>
2007-09-17 14:30 ` Recommendations for Speed? Duncan Hothersall
2007-09-18 20:33 ` waiting for mswincontext Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky
2007-09-19 7:46 ` Hans Hagen
2007-09-19 14:25 ` Idris Samawi Hamid
2007-09-19 16:33 ` Joel C. Salomon
2007-09-19 17:08 ` Idris Samawi Hamid
2007-09-19 18:02 ` Hans Hagen
2007-09-19 17:24 ` Mojca Miklavec
2007-09-19 14:40 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2007-09-19 14:45 ` Taco Hoekwater
2007-09-19 17:13 ` Idris Samawi Hamid
2007-09-20 7:01 ` Taco Hoekwater
2007-09-19 17:25 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2007-09-19 19:19 ` Idris Samawi Hamid
2007-09-19 19:53 ` Hans Hagen
2007-09-19 22:19 ` Aditya Mahajan
2007-09-19 23:22 ` Arthur Reutenauer
2007-09-20 7:06 ` Taco Hoekwater
2007-09-20 7:47 ` Hans Hagen
2007-09-20 17:24 ` Joel C. Salomon
2007-09-20 19:15 ` Aditya Mahajan
2007-09-20 7:36 ` Hans Hagen
2007-09-20 7:37 ` Hans Hagen
2007-09-19 17:26 ` Mojca Miklavec
2007-09-19 17:54 ` Hans Hagen
2007-09-19 14:45 ` Hans Hagen
2007-09-19 17:22 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2007-09-19 18:00 ` Hans Hagen
2007-09-19 18:31 ` Mojca Miklavec
2007-09-19 19:19 ` Hans Hagen
2007-09-20 6:59 ` Taco Hoekwater
2007-09-20 13:18 ` Mojca Miklavec
2007-09-20 18:22 ` Wolfgang Schuster [this message]
2007-09-20 20:21 ` Mojca Miklavec
2007-09-20 20:41 ` Hans Hagen
2007-09-21 7:37 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2007-09-21 12:40 ` Hans Hagen
2007-09-21 18:15 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2007-09-22 10:34 ` waiting for mswincontext / injecting Hans Hagen
2007-09-23 11:52 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2007-09-23 17:45 ` Mojca Miklavec
2007-09-23 17:49 ` Arthur Reutenauer
2007-09-23 18:00 ` Hans Hagen
2007-09-23 18:18 ` Idris Samawi Hamid
2007-09-23 20:01 ` Hans Hagen
2007-09-23 20:19 ` Idris Samawi Hamid
2007-09-23 18:24 ` Hans Hagen
2007-09-19 16:14 ` waiting for mswincontext Joel C. Salomon
2007-09-19 16:58 ` Hans Hagen
[not found] ` <6faad9f00709190257x35bd3495p1a5ee0de51f2a150@mail.gmail.com>
2007-09-19 15:00 ` Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky
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