From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/36717 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Wolfgang Schuster Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: waiting for mswincontext Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 09:37:38 +0200 Message-ID: <20070921093738.72d4ab06.schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> References: <20070919164032.193dbd41.schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> <46F13619.6030609@wxs.nl> <20070919192254.1e1fe351.schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> <46F163C6.1030703@wxs.nl> <6faad9f00709191131m3b4b075ak6581d7e3135b3012@mail.gmail.com> <46F17651.5080004@wxs.nl> <46F21A40.70204@elvenkind.com> <6faad9f00709200618h1077af37q4abb381040e98afb@mail.gmail.com> <20070920202228.571ed808.schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> <6faad9f00709201321p6f7f397cu99401d29578d494e@mail.gmail.com> <46F2DAE4.4030601@wxs.nl> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1190360543 7465 80.91.229.12 (21 Sep 2007 07:42:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 07:42:23 +0000 (UTC) To: ntg-context@ntg.nl Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Fri Sep 21 09:42:22 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IYd9R-0005c9-Dd for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 09:42:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20265202E5; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 09:42:11 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 06113-01; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 09:42:04 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 441901FC7B; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 09:38:00 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C4C51FC7B for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 09:37:57 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 03050-02-5 for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 09:37:49 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.169]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C36A1FBFD for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 09:37:49 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id h2so506117ugf for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 00:37:49 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.66.252.18 with SMTP id z18mr4117255ugh.1190360269292; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 00:37:49 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from eve ( [89.51.237.113]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t38sm710190ugc.2007.09.21.00.37.43 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 21 Sep 2007 00:37:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <46F2DAE4.4030601@wxs.nl> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.4 (GTK+ 2.10.13; i686-pc-mingw32) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:36717 Archived-At: On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 22:41:08 +0200 Hans Hagen wrote: > Mojca Miklavec wrote: > >>> So one additionally needs: > >>> - (possibly modified) xetex.ini itself > >>> - unicode-letters.tex (could be replaced by enco-utf.tex, though I > > context does not use that file (plain may use it) we can indeed use > enco-utf for plain as well (also defines some named chars) > > context does not depend on any tex file outside the base path > > >>> just figured out that there's more in unicode-letters than in > >>> enco-utf, but in that case enco-utf is that one which should be fixed) > > depends on the kind of error -) > > enco-utf uses info from unicode tables (character categories) > > >> this is not possible with the 0.997dev version because it presets > >> charclasses (a new feature in XeTeX) for a few CJK characters > > > > I saw some new additions when I took a look. > > > > This means that enco-utf needs to be updated once hans gets the new > > binaries from Akira :) > > depends, if we don't use these new features .. (yet) THis is a nice feature for our own simple plain documents but nothing for ConTeXt because there is no replacement in pdfTeX/luaTeX but it would be nice to have also something to use different fonts for latin, greek, CJK without using environments and switch to them with only the right characters. I want such a feature because CJK fonts have sometimes ugly latin characters and I want to use another font for them, I know this did happen in the current ConTeXt version but there should be no difference in fonts for CJK and the rest. Both should be defined with typescripts, one can use one fonts for both or select one for CJK and another one for the rest. > >>> - etex.src (btw: why is that one only used in xetex, but not in pdfTeX?) > >> this is also used for the pdftex format in w32tex > > because i cannot imagine a macro package to use the content of that file > > > I will take a look at w32tex then. > > > > It would be really handy to have those three plain formats. > > well, only is if it is not adding too much to the minimals, (and formats > to be generated by users) I have nothing against to make another archive cont-pln with all the file we need for the plain formats. > if you want such formats, we need dedicated files to make them, like > pdftex-plain.tex and such (after all, we want predictable stuff) for > initializing them > > Hans the file name for the format should math the engine name because it will be loaded with engine by default if you call it, e.g. pdftex myfile with process the file myfile with the format file pdftex.fmt Wolfgang ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________