From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/38303 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Matija =?utf-8?q?=C5=A0uklje?= Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: =?utf-8?q?First_document_=E2=80=94_problems_with_bi?= =?utf-8?q?b_module_and_layout?= Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 11:38:53 +0100 Message-ID: <200712271138.58989.matija.suklje@rutka.net> References: <200712252339.12166.matija.suklje@rutka.net> <477237BD.1030607@elvenkind.com> <200712262350.51187.matija.suklje@rutka.net> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0296459099==" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1198752210 22605 80.91.229.12 (27 Dec 2007 10:43:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 10:43:30 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Thu Dec 27 11:43:43 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1J7qDF-0005ea-EQ for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Thu, 27 Dec 2007 11:43:41 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F52E1FBFB; Thu, 27 Dec 2007 11:43:20 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 17399-01-2; Thu, 27 Dec 2007 11:42:33 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F8C11FBD5; Thu, 27 Dec 2007 11:42:33 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63BFE1FBD5 for ; Thu, 27 Dec 2007 11:42:31 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 16933-05 for ; Thu, 27 Dec 2007 11:41:59 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from srce.rutka.net (srce.rutka.net [217.72.76.100]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 810391FBDB for ; Thu, 27 Dec 2007 11:39:07 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (unknown [192.168.217.50]) by srce.rutka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC56A380B7F5 for ; Thu, 27 Dec 2007 10:39:06 +0000 (Local time zone must be set--see zic manual page) Original-Received: from srce.rutka.net ([192.168.217.50]) by localhost (rutka.net [192.168.217.50]) (amavisd-new, port 10025) with ESMTP id 17299-07 for ; Thu, 27 Dec 2007 10:38:59 +0000 (Local time zone must be set--see zic manual page) Original-Received: from [88.200.87.189] (unknown [88.200.87.189]) by srce.rutka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C569380B7D8 for ; Thu, 27 Dec 2007 10:38:59 +0000 (Local time zone must be set--see zic manual page) User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 In-Reply-To: <200712262350.51187.matija.suklje@rutka.net> X-Face: 9JQ>.o,'m$70vXZ4)9$IJRO,F)Z(}Uf>Pt@~[M_uw1"G,C)V; sQs; }AQ]|*J82$@mW<=?utf-8?q?rj2=0A=09=7DmD=5Fn?=@,SGQ@'9z*PCSwyG\!%M~)l-2)x(%|AJP!tr(we4Q7^fbv5"Kin<8i5wCP:<=?utf-8?q?A=7EPtz=0A=09aX=3AyDeHx3ethS?=>c<=?utf-8?q?8e=5D3nC6x=5B0tUZyqsgyVq=25=7BYe=3BM=24=25O=3F1=7CDoz=26VU=3A=5Fj?= =?utf-8?q?qko=5BZn3Bv=27dO=60=0A=09dol=26C4L?="C1TO2n[~B{]> =?utf-8?q?=5Bke9d=60Y=2E=5CCm4=7B=7CDV=7DbbHlGhhvf=7B=25kn=24N2=24nA=25Gn?= =?utf-8?q?0V*g=3AIhB=7D33=0A=09RW=3D6A9uUxUPVC?=>)K<]AZgN}q X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:38303 Archived-At: --===============0296459099== Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1562238.y7EMVYC1kF"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --nextPart1562238.y7EMVYC1kF Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Dne sreda 26. decembra 2007 je Matija =C5=A0uklje napisal(a): > * for each cititation to have a reference number in superscript and > Romannummerals next to the citation > * a footnote on the "same" page in the form like "T. Hoekwater, BIB (2006= ), > pp. 2-4" > * and in the appendix a list with longer forms like "Hoekwater, Taco: > BIBLIOGRAPHIES (2. edition), Oxford press, London 2006" How I *imagined* it could be made =E2=80=94 but failing at it miserably: * I defined a separate field 'kratko' in the .bbl file for shortened titles. * I *thought* that \cite would produce a numbred reference (e.g. [IV], or [= 4])=20 in the place in the text where I'm calling up \cite (just the number, not=20 the 'extras' =E2=80=94 e.g. \cite[extras=3D{ str. 2-5}]) * I planned to convience \cite to place the content plus it's extras to for= m a=20 footnote with a short(-ish) citation format =E2=80=94 using 'kratko' instea= d=20 of 'title' fields, skipping some fields, different layout etc. * and then to convience \placepublications to write a long citation format = =E2=80=94=20 using 'title', adding other fields, different layout etc. I thought that you can do that by defining (also for each 'type') a differe= nt=20 setup for what \cite shows and for what and how things are placed in the=20 \placepublications ...I thought that's what \setupcite (for \cite) and=20 \setuppubplications and \setuppublicationlist (for \placepublications) are. =2E..slowly I'm beginning to think that either ConTeXt's bib module is not= =20 matching my (faculty's) needs or that I just simply don't understand how it= =20 works. =46rom what I can tell the main problem is that in legal circles it's consi= dered=20 bad form to cite (the short one) right next to the cited text. The much=20 preferred way is "below the line" in the footer. I'm really sorry if I'm annoying, but I just can't figure it out. 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