From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/39735 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Marcin Borkowski Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: New Member Introductory Rant Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:22:46 +0200 Message-ID: <20080330192246.GB28732@atos.labs.wmid.amu.edu.pl> References: <47EFD6EE.50308@studiochango.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1206905053 3019 80.91.229.12 (30 Mar 2008 19:24:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 19:24:13 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Sun Mar 30 21:24:43 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Jg390-0000Of-Gy for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:24:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A79A31FC1B; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:24:02 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 30516-04-2; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:23:23 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B6A71FC11; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:23:23 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67EF81FC0D for ; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:23:21 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 31888-02 for ; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:22:49 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from atos.wmid.amu.edu.pl (atos.wmid.amu.edu.pl [150.254.78.2]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A39071FC14 for ; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:22:49 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by atos.wmid.amu.edu.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30D68100CC15 for ; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:22:47 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new (PLD-Linux) at wmid.amu.edu.pl Original-Received: from atos.wmid.amu.edu.pl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (atos.wmid.amu.edu.pl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10023) with ESMTP id osoR229smGCn for ; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:22:47 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by atos.wmid.amu.edu.pl (Postfix, from userid 3884) id EE4211013A1C; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:22:46 +0200 (CEST) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <47EFD6EE.50308@studiochango.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:39735 Archived-At: Dnia Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 11:07:42AM -0700, Corin Royal Drummond napisa = 2;(a): > Dear Professor Idriss, and the Lovely ConTeXT Community, > = > What a thoughtful and warm response to my late night introductory rant. = You've most certainly gained a dedicated new user today. Your restraint an= d courtesy to my half-considered diatribe is most heartening. Amazingly, y= ou managed to answer alot of questions I wasn't fully aware I was asking. = Hear, hear! ;) > = > Since I wrote to the list last night, I have continued learning ConTeXt a= t a frightening clip. Did my first drop caps, indentations, and messed arou= nd with setting width and height. I can't remember when my computer has br= ought me so much fun. = Wow... I'm pretty much in the same situation - just can't wait to start using ConTeXt on a more serious basis! The only problem is, that for me writing in LaTeX (or even plain TeX) is waaay faster - I remember most commands etc. > = > I'm beginning to see that there is a fair amount of documentation, but it= 's sprayed all over and needs some TLC. I think what I'd like to contribut= e to ConTeXt is some more docs. I'm thinking of doing some web video scree= ncasts (easy on Linux) showing off how to do specific things like Lettrines= or multi-line headers, explaining the format of options and parameters, an= d generally helping people see and appreciate the ConTeXt way. = I had the very same plan, but currently I'm very busy. I started a page on the wiki about fonts for beginners but stopped because of poor time management:(. Hope to get to it back again; if anyone wants to help, it'd be great! And presentations/screencasts suck (I have 128 megs of RAM;)). It's better to give sample code. There is a command on ConTeXtgarden (I can't load it in my browser, so I can't check the syntax, but I've used it on the aforementioned page) which shows both the code and the result. > = > I would seem that ConTeXt has a natural market in web developers who are = used to writing structured documents for layout engines. Personally, I'd l= ike to see a Drupal module that will ConTeXtify a person's website as a boo= k or magazine for printing. How great would it be to have an automatically= updating e-book for print and screen generated off your website's content = based on your tags/taxonomy. Just add "FortheBook" tag to an article, and = without one having to do any more, it will appear in the PDF available on t= he front page of your site. There is a LaTeX module for Drupal, but I have= n't tried it. I think such a module would help to whet other web developer= 's appetite for ConTeXT. = > = > I think one of the joys of ConTeXt for me is that web development just su= cks for typography. There are only a handful of fonts one can specify in an= y document unless you embed them in images (which God told me was a sin). = By contrast, with ConTeXt, I feel like a kid in a candy store, with so many= things I can do to my text. I nearly had a fit when I got hanging punctua= tion working. = > = > Thanks again for your kind counsel Idriss, I hope I can help you guys ou= t by writing some new docs, and being an evangelist for ConTeXt. Never hav= e I found a piece of software that so deserved wider recognition. = > = > I will definitely keep an eye out for Mojca and Luigi. Would be so excit= ed to meet a local ConTeXt user. = > = > With deep gratitude, > = > Corin Royal Drummond > San Francisco Yet another ConTeXt newbie and fan;) -- = Marcin Borkowski (http://mbork.faculty.fmcs.amu.edu.pl) Jezus =BFyje NAPRAWD=CA. 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