From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/40306 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Arthur Reutenauer Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: luatex feature question/request Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 02:40:30 +0200 Message-ID: <20080416004030.GE15659@phare.normalesup.org> References: <47F5DDDF.9040304@wxs.nl> <47F5E7D3.407@elvenkind.com> <47F5EC67.9020903@elvenkind.com> <5c2c86e70804040158o712ab1ben88b69b0d794109cc@mail.gmail.com> <47F5EFF5.9040109@wxs.nl> <5c2c86e70804040402w4574e8e0q6f27e13fb404cdd@mail.gmail.com> <47F61E93.6050408@wxs.nl> <5c2c86e70804040609x6f9beb7bu6441e2fc20db1161@mail.gmail.com> <4804FF82.8010003@wxs.nl> Reply-To: Mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1208323719 32368 80.91.229.12 (16 Apr 2008 05:28:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 05:28:39 +0000 (UTC) To: Mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Wed Apr 16 07:29:13 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JlwEW-000077-Ax for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Wed, 16 Apr 2008 03:14:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC8EB1FC14; Wed, 16 Apr 2008 03:14:03 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 09932-08-6; Wed, 16 Apr 2008 03:13:22 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A8EB1FC57; Wed, 16 Apr 2008 02:42:46 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF04A1FC57 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 2008 02:42:45 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 09305-03-4 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 2008 02:42:11 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from nef2.ens.fr (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.40]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 013891FBEB for ; Wed, 16 Apr 2008 02:42:10 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from phare.normalesup.org (phare.normalesup.org [129.199.129.80]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m3G0gAHv075566 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 2008 02:42:10 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Original-Received: by phare.normalesup.org (Postfix, from userid 1008) id 1CC816A11C0; Wed, 16 Apr 2008 02:40:30 +0200 (CEST) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4804FF82.8010003@wxs.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 16 Apr 2008 02:42:10 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:40306 Archived-At: > but if we support such a > thing, we need a better specification; there are probably more space > related chars that needs treatment then There's not much to it, actually. There are some space characters in Unicode, and we should handle them as much Unicode-compliantly as possible; and there are some particular typographic conventions on top of that, for each language. It's easy to come up with a simple scheme to support both, and I've already outlined it on a different mailing-list (http://tug.org/pipermail/xetex/2008-February/008529.html). The problem is to decide how much of the users' old typing habits we want to take in account (and, Olivier, another message by me in the same thread addresses the exact same issues you were raising a few days ago: http://tug.org/pipermail/xetex/2008-February/008533.html). I can discuss that with you at BachoTeX, Hans. It's best done around a beer or two, anyway ;-) Arthur ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________