Minimals - how to use?

Minimals - how to use?

[David]

Hi all (and thanks for the help lately with tables etc.)

I have been running mkiv on a mac (powerpc, OS 10.4) with no problems, 
in conjunction with a TeXLive installation. I have updated this setup 
several times, by downloading the latest luatex and latest context from 
their respective sites, and following instructions previously sent to 
this list regarding making files executable and creating a couple of 
links.

Lately, it seems that minimals from the contextgarden wiki are becoming 
the accepted standard, so I decided to switch. I downloaded the 
first-run script, ran it, it successfully downloaded all the components 
to a directory. Now my stupid question: How do I actually *use* the 
minimal ConTeXt installation?

Thanks
David
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Re: Minimals - how to use?

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 6:08 AM, David wrote:
>
>  Now my stupid question: How do I actually *use* the
>  minimal ConTeXt installation?

Hello David,

I have the following line in my .bash_profile (but you can issue that
manually if you want to use LaTeX from the other distribution as
well):

. context/tex/setuptex context/tex

Mojca

PS: I will add that instruction at the end of first-setup.sh
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Re: Minimals - how to use?

[David]

On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 09:15:42 +0200, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 6:08 AM, David wrote:
>> 
>>  Now my stupid question: How do I actually *use* the
>>  minimal ConTeXt installation?
> 
> Hello David,
> 
> I have the following line in my .bash_profile (but you can issue that
> manually if you want to use LaTeX from the other distribution as
> well):
> 
> . context/tex/setuptex context/tex
> 
> Mojca
> 
> PS: I will add that instruction at the end of first-setup.sh


Thank you - this was indeed the step I was missing, and now it works.

For my purposes (my requirements are not large, I'm not in a hurry, and 
I don't want to waste time learning multiple ways of doing things), I 
have decided to do everything strictly in mkiv - no mkii and no latex. 
I want to learn the future habits and methods now, and drop the old 
ones right away. For me, is the command

texexec --lua myfile.tex

the best way to work, or is there something else I should switch to? 
(e.g. mtxrun or something)

Thanks
David
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Re: Minimals - how to use?

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:16 PM, David wrote:
>
>  For my purposes (my requirements are not large, I'm not in a hurry, and
>  I don't want to waste time learning multiple ways of doing things), I
>  have decided to do everything strictly in mkiv - no mkii and no latex.
>  I want to learn the future habits and methods now, and drop the old
>  ones right away. For me, is the command
>
>  texexec --lua myfile.tex
>
>  the best way to work, or is there something else I should switch to?
>  (e.g. mtxrun or something)

context myfile.tex

Mojca
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Re: Minimals - how to use?

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Tue, 22 Apr 2008, David wrote:

> On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 09:15:42 +0200, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
>> On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 6:08 AM, David wrote:
>>>
>>>  Now my stupid question: How do I actually *use* the
>>>  minimal ConTeXt installation?
>>
>> Hello David,
>>
>> I have the following line in my .bash_profile (but you can issue that
>> manually if you want to use LaTeX from the other distribution as
>> well):
>>
>> . context/tex/setuptex context/tex
>>
>> Mojca
>>
>> PS: I will add that instruction at the end of first-setup.sh
>
>
> Thank you - this was indeed the step I was missing, and now it works.
>
> For my purposes (my requirements are not large, I'm not in a hurry, and
> I don't want to waste time learning multiple ways of doing things), I
> have decided to do everything strictly in mkiv - no mkii and no latex.
> I want to learn the future habits and methods now, and drop the old
> ones right away. For me, is the command
>
> texexec --lua myfile.tex
>
> the best way to work, or is there something else I should switch to?
> (e.g. mtxrun or something)

context filename

context is a stub present in texmf-context/scripts/context/stub/unix and 
says

#!/bin/sh

mtxrun --script context "$@"

Aditya
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Re: Minimals - how to use?

[David]

On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 18:53:10 -0400 (EDT), Aditya Mahajan wrote:
>> 
>> For my purposes (my requirements are not large, I'm not in a hurry, and
>> I don't want to waste time learning multiple ways of doing things), I
>> have decided to do everything strictly in mkiv - no mkii and no latex.
>> I want to learn the future habits and methods now, and drop the old
>> ones right away. For me, is the command
>> 
>> texexec --lua myfile.tex
>> 
>> the best way to work, or is there something else I should switch to?
>> (e.g. mtxrun or something)
> 
> context filename
> 
> context is a stub present in texmf-context/scripts/context/stub/unix and 
> says
> 
> #!/bin/sh
> 
> mtxrun --script context "$@"


Thanks to Aditya and Mojca for your help.
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Re: Minimals - how to use?

[Diego Depaoli]

A bit ot...
running first-setup.sh under FreeBSD I get

/usr/local/bin/rsync
/usr/local/bin/ruby
receiving file list ... done

sent 98 bytes  received 149 bytes  164.67 bytes/sec
total size is 4219262  speedup is 17082.03

MtxRun | version 1.0.2 - 2007+ - PRAGMA ADE / CONTEXT

MtxRun | skipping configuration for /texmf-local/web2c from
/home/diego/luatex-cache/context/fcf214085bb2c4fcd9a0f9a9f0d0aecf/trees/d80510d450a3fa2a64df4d3741825f1d
MtxRun | skipping configuration for /texmf/web2c from
/home/diego/luatex-cache/context/fcf214085bb2c4fcd9a0f9a9f0d0aecf/trees/3113242409ded67a0ad7bd508bd26609
MtxRun | using script: ./bin/mtx-update.luareport >> state: loaded
report >> update: start
./bin/mtx-update.lua:181: bad argument #1 to 'pairs' (table expected, got nil)

what's wrong here?

Cheers,
-- 
Diego Depaoli
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Re: Minimals - how to use?

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 9:18 AM, Diego Depaoli wrote:
> A bit ot...
>  running first-setup.sh under FreeBSD I get
>
>  /usr/local/bin/rsync
>  /usr/local/bin/ruby
>  receiving file list ... done
>
>  sent 98 bytes  received 149 bytes  164.67 bytes/sec
>  total size is 4219262  speedup is 17082.03
>
>  MtxRun | version 1.0.2 - 2007+ - PRAGMA ADE / CONTEXT
>
>  MtxRun | skipping configuration for /texmf-local/web2c from
>  /home/diego/luatex-cache/context/fcf214085bb2c4fcd9a0f9a9f0d0aecf/trees/d80510d450a3fa2a64df4d3741825f1d
>  MtxRun | skipping configuration for /texmf/web2c from
>  /home/diego/luatex-cache/context/fcf214085bb2c4fcd9a0f9a9f0d0aecf/trees/3113242409ded67a0ad7bd508bd26609
>  MtxRun | using script: ./bin/mtx-update.luareport >> state: loaded
>  report >> update: start
>  ./bin/mtx-update.lua:181: bad argument #1 to 'pairs' (table expected, got nil)
>
>  what's wrong here?

I'm clueless. And I'm afraid that there are not many FreeBSD users on
the list, at least none of the developers. Maybe Yue (who provided the
binaries for FreeBSD) can help.

Mojca
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Re: Minimals - how to use?

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 12:51 PM, Mojca Miklavec
<mojca.miklavec.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 9:18 AM, Diego Depaoli wrote:
>  > A bit ot...
>  >  running first-setup.sh under FreeBSD I get
>  >
>  >  /usr/local/bin/rsync
>  >  /usr/local/bin/ruby
>  >  receiving file list ... done
>  >
>  >  sent 98 bytes  received 149 bytes  164.67 bytes/sec
>  >  total size is 4219262  speedup is 17082.03
>  >
>  >  MtxRun | version 1.0.2 - 2007+ - PRAGMA ADE / CONTEXT
>  >
>  >  MtxRun | skipping configuration for /texmf-local/web2c from
>  >  /home/diego/luatex-cache/context/fcf214085bb2c4fcd9a0f9a9f0d0aecf/trees/d80510d450a3fa2a64df4d3741825f1d
>  >  MtxRun | skipping configuration for /texmf/web2c from
>  >  /home/diego/luatex-cache/context/fcf214085bb2c4fcd9a0f9a9f0d0aecf/trees/3113242409ded67a0ad7bd508bd26609
>  >  MtxRun | using script: ./bin/mtx-update.luareport >> state: loaded
>  >  report >> update: start
>  >  ./bin/mtx-update.lua:181: bad argument #1 to 'pairs' (table expected, got nil)
>  >
>  >  what's wrong here?
>
>  I'm clueless. And I'm afraid that there are not many FreeBSD users on
>  the list, at least none of the developers. Maybe Yue (who provided the
>  binaries for FreeBSD) can help.

One more thing - the binaries for FreeBSD might not be at the latest
version. This could be a problem, but I suspect that something else is
wrong as well.

Mojca
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Re: Minimals - how to use?

[Yue Wang]

Hi,

Maybe this is because the old FreeBSD binaries I have made. Sorry.
I should have updated these binary earlier in time, just after the
0.25.3-release.
Trust me, this Friday, you will get the new working binaries for
luatex/pdftex/xetex/mpost.
(give me some time to figure out how to remove my windows
installation, god blessed)

For now, you can use the Linux binary in FreeBSD,
be sure the linux compatibility is enabled (kldload linux),
and modify the first-setup.sh and make it think you are in Linux.

Yue


On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 3:18 PM, Diego Depaoli <trebestie@gmail.com> wrote:
> A bit ot...
>  running first-setup.sh under FreeBSD I get
>
>  /usr/local/bin/rsync
>  /usr/local/bin/ruby
>  receiving file list ... done
>
>  sent 98 bytes  received 149 bytes  164.67 bytes/sec
>  total size is 4219262  speedup is 17082.03
>
>  MtxRun | version 1.0.2 - 2007+ - PRAGMA ADE / CONTEXT
>
>  MtxRun | skipping configuration for /texmf-local/web2c from
>  /home/diego/luatex-cache/context/fcf214085bb2c4fcd9a0f9a9f0d0aecf/trees/d80510d450a3fa2a64df4d3741825f1d
>  MtxRun | skipping configuration for /texmf/web2c from
>  /home/diego/luatex-cache/context/fcf214085bb2c4fcd9a0f9a9f0d0aecf/trees/3113242409ded67a0ad7bd508bd26609
>  MtxRun | using script: ./bin/mtx-update.luareport >> state: loaded
>  report >> update: start
>  ./bin/mtx-update.lua:181: bad argument #1 to 'pairs' (table expected, got nil)
>
>  what's wrong here?
>
>  Cheers,
>  --
>  Diego Depaoli
>
>
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Re: Minimals - how to use?

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 9:18 AM, Diego Depaoli wrote:
> A bit ot...
>  running first-setup.sh under FreeBSD I get
>
>  /usr/local/bin/rsync
>  /usr/local/bin/ruby
>  receiving file list ... done
>
>  sent 98 bytes  received 149 bytes  164.67 bytes/sec
>  total size is 4219262  speedup is 17082.03
>
>  MtxRun | version 1.0.2 - 2007+ - PRAGMA ADE / CONTEXT
>
>  MtxRun | skipping configuration for /texmf-local/web2c from
>  /home/diego/luatex-cache/context/fcf214085bb2c4fcd9a0f9a9f0d0aecf/trees/d80510d450a3fa2a64df4d3741825f1d
>  MtxRun | skipping configuration for /texmf/web2c from
>  /home/diego/luatex-cache/context/fcf214085bb2c4fcd9a0f9a9f0d0aecf/trees/3113242409ded67a0ad7bd508bd26609
>  MtxRun | using script: ./bin/mtx-update.luareport >> state: loaded
>  report >> update: start
>  ./bin/mtx-update.lua:181: bad argument #1 to 'pairs' (table expected, got nil)
>
>  what's wrong here?

Did the new LuaTeX resolve the problems? (I'm not sure if FreeBSD
minimals have ever worked - Hans has applied a patch several days ago,
but it has not been tested so far.)

Thanks,
    Mojca
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Re: Minimals - how to use?

[Jan-Erik Hägglöf]

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David skrev:
> On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 18:53:10 -0400 (EDT), Aditya Mahajan wrote:
>>> For my purposes (my requirements are not large, I'm not in a hurry, and
>>> I don't want to waste time learning multiple ways of doing things), I
>>> have decided to do everything strictly in mkiv - no mkii and no latex.
>>> I want to learn the future habits and methods now, and drop the old
>>> ones right away. For me, is the command
>>>
>>> texexec --lua myfile.tex
>>>
>>> the best way to work, or is there something else I should switch to?
>>> (e.g. mtxrun or something)
>> context filename
>>
>> context is a stub present in texmf-context/scripts/context/stub/unix and 
>> says
>>
>> #!/bin/sh
>>
>> mtxrun --script context "$@"
> 
> 
Hi!
There is no existing context script file on my minimal installation.
Here is my output
janne@janne-laptop:~/ctx-test/tex/texmf-context/scripts/context/stubs/unix$
ls -l
totalt 72
- -rw-r--r-- 1 janne janne 38 2008-04-16 17:36 ctxtools
- -rw-r--r-- 1 janne janne 38 2008-04-16 17:36 exatools
- -rw-r--r-- 1 janne janne 37 2008-04-16 17:36 makempy
- -rw-r--r-- 1 janne janne 38 2008-04-16 17:36 mpstools
- -rw-r--r-- 1 janne janne 37 2008-04-16 17:36 mptopdf
- -rw-r--r-- 1 janne janne 38 2008-04-16 17:36 pdftools
- -rw-r--r-- 1 janne janne 42 2008-04-16 17:36 pdftrimwhite
- -rw-r--r-- 1 janne janne 37 2008-04-16 17:36 pstopdf
- -rw-r--r-- 1 janne janne 38 2008-04-16 17:36 rlxtools
- -rw-r--r-- 1 janne janne 38 2008-04-16 17:36 runtools
- -rw-r--r-- 1 janne janne 37 2008-04-16 17:36 texexec
- -rw-r--r-- 1 janne janne 34 2008-04-16 17:36 texfind
- -rw-r--r-- 1 janne janne 37 2008-04-16 17:36 texfont
- -rw-r--r-- 1 janne janne 37 2008-04-16 17:36 texshow
- -rw-r--r-- 1 janne janne 38 2008-04-16 17:36 textools
- -rw-r--r-- 1 janne janne 37 2008-04-16 17:36 texutil
- -rw-r--r-- 1 janne janne 38 2008-04-16 17:36 tmftools
- -rw-r--r-- 1 janne janne 38 2008-04-16 17:36 xmltools

So now I got very confused!


Janneman

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Re: Minimals - how to use?

[Arthur Reutenauer]

> There is no existing context script file on my minimal installation.

  It's a Lua script, which means it's in scripts/context/lua (look for
mtx-context.lua).

	Arthur
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Re: Minimals - how to use?

[Taco Hoekwater]

Arthur Reutenauer wrote:
>> There is no existing context script file on my minimal installation.
> 
>   It's a Lua script, which means it's in scripts/context/lua (look for
> mtx-context.lua).

There is a stub now as well, but see the date:

   Apr 18 22:09 /opt/tex/texmf-local/scripts/context/stubs/unix/context

Contents is a trivial two-liner:

   #!/bin/sh
   mtxrun --script context "$@"

Best wishes,
Taco



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