From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/41230 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: bibl-apa.tex wrong? Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 10:36:19 -0700 Message-ID: <20080527103619741059.47313f93@gmail.com> References: <483BAC09.9010504@elvenkind.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1211909899 29374 80.91.229.12 (27 May 2008 17:38:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 17:38:19 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Tue May 27 19:38:49 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1K138E-0002tx-5z for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Tue, 27 May 2008 19:38:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04B471FC14; Tue, 27 May 2008 19:37:55 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 32082-01; Tue, 27 May 2008 19:37:07 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 830871FBFB; Tue, 27 May 2008 19:37:07 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EE6B1FBFB for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 19:37:05 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 30966-02 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 19:36:29 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.176]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E247C1FB8E for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 19:36:28 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so1920145pyb.5 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 10:36:27 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.140.247.11 with SMTP id u11mr669255rvh.23.1211909786985; Tue, 27 May 2008 10:36:26 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from d66-183-34-43.bchsia.telus.net ( [66.183.34.43]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l31sm12715671rvb.6.2008.05.27.10.36.23 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 27 May 2008 10:36:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <483BAC09.9010504@elvenkind.com> X-Mailer: GyazMail version 1.5.7 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:41230 Archived-At: On Tue, 27 May 2008 08:36:57 +0200, Taco Hoekwater wrote: > Matej Baric( wrote: >> Hello, >> This (http://www.liu.edu/cwis/cwp/library/workshop/citapa.htm) and >> just about any other site I look at specifies publisher info as >> ": ", whereas bibl-apa.tex specifies it >> as ", ". >> Why is the file called bibl-apa.tex if it doesn't follow APA rules? Am >> I missing something > > Originally (years ago already), I reverse-engineered apalike from > latex. It is quite possible I made a error there (or even that > apalike had it wrong) but if no-one reports a bug it is not noticed. > > Also, I've had quite a few incorrect bug reports about the styles, so > I am no longer all that eager to change them at a single bug report. > Two questions: do you have a definitive source somewhere? and are > there any other problems you see in bibl-apa.tex? The 5th edition of the APA Publication Manual is unambiguous on this point. Section 4.14, page 230, states: (note, I have transcribed their table of examples into plain text for easier reading in email) ____________________________________________________________ 4.14 Publication Information: Nonperiodicals (table of examples) Location, ST: Publisher. (example) Hillsdale, NJ: Erlbaum Location, Province, Country: Publisher. (example) Toronto, Ontario, Canada: University of Toronto Press. Location, Country: Publisher. (example) Oxford, England: Basil Blackwell. Major City: Publisher. (example) Amsterdam: Elsevier. (end table of examples) - Give the city and, if the city is not well known for publishing (see section 4.03) or could be confused with another location, the state or province (and/or country) where the publisher is located as noted on the title page of the book. Use U.S. Postal Service abbreviations for states (see Table 4.1). Use a colon after the location. - If the publisher is a university and the name of the state or province is included in the name of the university, do not repeat the state or province in the publisher location. - Give the name of the publisher in as brief a form as is intelligible. Write out the names of associations, corporations, and university presses, but omit superfluous terms, such as Publishers, Co., or INC., which are not required to identify the publisher. Retain the words Books and Press. - If two or more publisher locations are given, give the location listed first in the book or, if specified, the location of the publisher's home office. - Finish the element with a period. ____________________________________________________________ ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________