From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/41758 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Khaled Hosny Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Luatex (actually Aleph) and Bidi_Mirrored chars in RTL mode Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 00:38:00 +0300 Message-ID: <20080618213800.GA16028@khaled-laptop> References: <484E2E92.7050200@wxs.nl> <20080610152800.GA6749@phare.normalesup.org> <484E9EA5.1000204@wxs.nl> <20080610213014.GK6749@phare.normalesup.org> <40146465-B983-47C1-A84E-79A1B237C88F@gmail.com> <20080618082900.GD29361@phare.normalesup.org> <20080618154419.GA22282@khaled-laptop> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1473113413==" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1213825205 23916 80.91.229.12 (18 Jun 2008 21:40:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 21:40:05 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Wed Jun 18 23:40:48 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1K95OY-0007hn-EZ for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 23:40:46 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02E431FC61; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 23:39:52 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 17275-02-7; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 23:39:04 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B29871FC2F; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 23:39:04 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CF1D1FC1A for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 23:38:57 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 16408-04-10 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 23:38:22 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.231]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 015E11FC2F for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 23:38:20 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id c30so353821wra.14 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 14:38:20 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.100.172.17 with SMTP id u17mr1917724ane.28.1213825099841; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 14:38:19 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from localhost ( [41.232.33.86]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c16sm17076673anc.31.2008.06.18.14.38.15 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 18 Jun 2008 14:38:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17+20080114 (2008-01-14) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:41758 Archived-At: --===============1473113413== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="45Z9DzgjV8m4Oswq" Content-Disposition: inline --45Z9DzgjV8m4Oswq Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 01:50:35PM -0600, Idris Samawi Hamid wrote: > On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 09:44:19 -0600, Khaled Hosny = =20 > wrote: > >>> Get SC unipad and type identical logical input in Arabic and Farsi =20 >>> modes. >>> The makers of Unipad are Iranian and they implement both Arabic and =20 >>> Farsi >>> rules correctly, have keyboards etc. AFAIK, no other editor implements >>> the bidi alg as well. >> >> I didn't use Unipad that much, but I think Gedit (GTK pased) does a >> perfect job, > > No, it does not ;-) > >> I'm not aware of any windows port of it though. > > andLinux on W32 is wonderful, no more cygwin etc. > >> I'd like to >> know what features in Unipad (regarding Arabic) that Gedit hasn't. > > One example: > > The following comes out correctly in Unipad, also in Opera's email =20 > composer (don't know how it will look in your client). It does not come = =20 > out right in Windows Notepad or in gedit. Kate does get it right (and =20 > other kde apps as well), as well as OOo: > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > European: > 18%, 1--3 > > Arabic: > =D9=A1=D9=A8=D9=AA=D8=8C =D9=A1--=D9=A3 > > Farsi: > =DB=B1=DB=B8=D9=AA=D8=8C =DB=B1--=DB=B3 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Oh, it is shame that even my terminal (mlterm) renders it right! I think I'm going to report this :) > > See attached as well. > > Unipad is designed as a complete unicode utility, and has lots of other = =20 > nifty features as well, especially for editing Arabic script. Its =20 > Arabic-script editing features are truly unique and useful. Eg, I =20 > select/edit vowels horizontally not vertically. > > Unipad has: > > Char Info bar: > character code value (U+0000) > character name (if assigned) > character category (letter, decimal digit, etc.) > character block (script, collection, etc.) > > Extended Char Info bar: > decimal character code value > encoded byte sequence (octals) > bidirectional character type > decimal digit value (only if the character represents a decimal digit) > > Unipad is not a good choice for a programmer's or TeX editor, but in =20 > overall unicode editing it is unrivalled, although it has not been=20 > updated since Unicode 4.1.0 :-( Fortunately, thanks to WINE, it does run under Linux, even their web site lists WINE as one of the supported platforms. Regards, Khaled --=20 Khaled Hosny Arabic localizer and member of Arabeyes.org team --45Z9DzgjV8m4Oswq Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIWYA4RoqITGOuyPIRAj2nAJwMhN5cYNTTSXBKijc55iH4kMUO7QCfcCRh hjBaesPRfxiJ8Qla7lCPbgM= =nqpt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --45Z9DzgjV8m4Oswq-- --===============1473113413== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ --===============1473113413==--