From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/42138 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Olivier Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: luatex feature question/request Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 17:01:13 +0200 Message-ID: <20080704150113.GC1895@blackowl.org> References: <20080704105426.GA6097@atos.labs.wmid.amu.edu.pl> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1215183771 16283 80.91.229.12 (4 Jul 2008 15:02:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 15:02:51 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Fri Jul 04 17:03:36 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KEmou-0004Ss-44 for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 Jul 2008 17:03:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEA9E1FE81; Fri, 4 Jul 2008 17:02:38 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 32050-07-3; Fri, 4 Jul 2008 17:01:54 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E0C71FEC4; Fri, 4 Jul 2008 17:01:53 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0D581FEC0 for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2008 17:01:51 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 30848-02-2 for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2008 17:01:18 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from smtp2b.orange.fr (smtp2b.orange.fr [80.12.242.145]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3736D1FE86 for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2008 17:01:18 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2b06.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E0F3470000AB for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2008 17:01:17 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from moramora.blackowl.org (APuteaux-155-1-53-94.w86-217.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.217.104.94]) by mwinf2b06.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C415B700009F for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2008 17:01:17 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080704150117803.C415B700009F@mwinf2b06.orange.fr Original-Received: from vony by moramora.blackowl.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KEmmf-0000Vd-BO for ntg-context@ntg.nl; Fri, 04 Jul 2008 17:01:13 +0200 Mail-Followup-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: "Debian GNU/Linux" User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:42138 Archived-At: Quoting "Idris Samawi Hamid ?????????? ?????????? ????????" : > -- was ishamid@colostate.edu on Jul 04, 2008 at 08:23:19AM -- > On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 04:54:26 -0600, Marcin Borkowski > wrote: > > > 3 months ago (on Friday, April 4) I asked about an option for luatex to > > automatically put ties before one-letter words. Hans asked me to remind > > about it in a few months, so I do it now;). (I can't answer in that > > thread since I delete old mails:( ). > > > > BTW, I guess such a feature might be also useful for other purposes. > > Interesting, I was thinking about something similar recently: > > A user should be able to define or augment a database such that > many-to-most ties are done automatically: I am a bit affraid by such a feature: there are cases where it is hard to decide (automatically, because it means going down to the grammatical level) if a tie has to be added or not. Therefore the end user always have to choose the right thing to do: in one case, he has to add ties when needed, in the suggested case he has to remove them. It seems to me that the original problem is transformed into another dual one. (Of course, this might prove useful if there are less exceptions in the end, but I'm a bit sceptical.) Olivier ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________