bib module and hypehnation

bib module and hypehnation

[Aditya Mahajan]

Hi,

I am using the bib module with ssa style. Quite often while citing 
articles with long author names, I find author names 
protruding into the margin. Does bib module not support hyphenating author 
names, or is something wrong in my setup?

Aditya
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Re: bib module and hypehnation

[Taco Hoekwater]

Aditya Mahajan wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I am using the bib module with ssa style. Quite often while citing 
> articles with long author names, I find author names 
> protruding into the margin. Does bib module not support hyphenating author 
> names, or is something wrong in my setup?

Hyphenation seems to work OK here, so you had better post an example.

Best wishes,
Taco
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Re: bib module and hypehnation

[Aditya Mahajan]

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On Mon, 28 Jul 2008, Taco Hoekwater wrote:

>
>
> Aditya Mahajan wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am using the bib module with ssa style. Quite often while citing
>> articles with long author names, I find author names
>> protruding into the margin. Does bib module not support hyphenating author
>> names, or is something wrong in my setup?
>
> Hyphenation seems to work OK here, so you had better post an example.

I am attaching an example from a document that I am working on. It is 
rather big, because I need the same setup (fonts and layout) to create the 
problem. The word "Kontoyiannis" is not hyphenated and protrudes to the 
margin. I have tried to add it to \hyphenation, but that does not work.

I think that the trouble is due to interaction. If I switch off 
interaction, I get complelely different linebreaks, but no troubles with 
margin.

The document was compiled using
ConTeXt  ver: 2008.07.13 22:32 MKIV  fmt: 2008.7.15  int: english/english 
and
LuaTeX, Version snapshot-0.28.0-2008070423


Thanks,
Aditya

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  \head Performance bounds of finite delay or real||time communication systems

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    mathematical programming, forward flow of information,
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Re: bib module and hypehnation

[Taco Hoekwater]

Aditya Mahajan wrote:
> 
> I think that the trouble is due to interaction. If I switch off 
> interaction, I get complelely different linebreaks, but no troubles with 
> margin.

Ah, yes. The \cite basically expands into \goto{<authornames>}[ref],
and context does not hyphenate the word(s) in the braced argument of
\goto. Sorry, looks like you are stuck.

Best wishes,
Taco


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Re: bib module and hypehnation

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Mon, 28 Jul 2008, Taco Hoekwater wrote:

> Aditya Mahajan wrote:
>>
>> I think that the trouble is due to interaction. If I switch off
>> interaction, I get complelely different linebreaks, but no troubles with
>> margin.
>
> Ah, yes. The \cite basically expands into \goto{<authornames>}[ref],
> and context does not hyphenate the word(s) in the braced argument of
> \goto. Sorry, looks like you are stuck.

Thanks for confirming this. For this project, I will go without 
interaction since the output must look good on print.

Any particular reason why \goto does not break the link across lines? I 
thought that PS could not handle links split across multiple lines while 
PDF could. Is it just because \goto was implement loooong time back?

Aditya
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Re: bib module and hypehnation

[Hans Hagen]

Aditya Mahajan wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Jul 2008, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> 
>> Aditya Mahajan wrote:
>>> I think that the trouble is due to interaction. If I switch off
>>> interaction, I get complelely different linebreaks, but no troubles with
>>> margin.
>> Ah, yes. The \cite basically expands into \goto{<authornames>}[ref],
>> and context does not hyphenate the word(s) in the braced argument of
>> \goto. Sorry, looks like you are stuck.
> 
> Thanks for confirming this. For this project, I will go without 
> interaction since the output must look good on print.
> 
> Any particular reason why \goto does not break the link across lines? I 
> thought that PS could not handle links split across multiple lines while 
> PDF could. Is it just because \goto was implement loooong time back?

goto breaks but does not hyphenate ...

- indeed it dates from the multiple backend time
- also, this gives us more control over proper clickable areas
- it'a also related to more complex nnotations (chained, inheritance etc)

in mkiv i might reimplement this at some point using attributes

Hans




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Re: bib module and hypehnation

[Peter Münster]

On Mon, Jul 28 2008, Aditya Mahajan wrote:

> Any particular reason why \goto does not break the link across lines? I 
> thought that PS could not handle links split across multiple lines while 
> PDF could. Is it just because \goto was implement loooong time back?

It's perhaps just a matter of time, see also:

http://foundry.supelec.fr/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=59&group_id=21&atid=164

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