greek again

greek again

[cidadaum]

On Mon, 21 Jul 2008, cidadaum at sapo.pt wrote:


> Where did you unzip the module?

> Aditya

Here:

adsm@adsm:~/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/third/greek> ls
t-ancientgreek.mkii  t-ancientgreek.tex  type-agr.mkii  type-agr.tex
t-ancientgreek.mkiv  t-oldgreek.tex      type-agr.mkiv
adsm@adsm:~/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/third/greek>

The fonts are in:
adsm@adsm:~/context/tex/texmf/fonts/

Thanks for your help!
Armando



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Re: greek again

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Mon, 21 Jul 2008, cidadaum@sapo.pt wrote:

>
> On Mon, 21 Jul 2008, cidadaum at sapo.pt wrote:
>
>
>> Where did you unzip the module?
>
>> Aditya
>
> Here:
>
> adsm@adsm:~/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/third/greek> ls
> t-ancientgreek.mkii  t-ancientgreek.tex  type-agr.mkii  type-agr.tex
> t-ancientgreek.mkiv  t-oldgreek.tex      type-agr.mkiv
> adsm@adsm:~/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/third/greek>
>
> The fonts are in:
> adsm@adsm:~/context/tex/texmf/fonts/

If you are in the directory of your document, what does

kpsewhich t-ancientgreek.tex

and

luatools t-ancientgreek.tex

return?

Aditya
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Re: greek again

[cidadaum]

Citando Aditya Mahajan <adityam@umich.edu>:

> On Mon, 21 Jul 2008, cidadaum@sapo.pt wrote:
>
>>
>> On Mon, 21 Jul 2008, cidadaum at sapo.pt wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Where did you unzip the module?
>>
>>> Aditya
>>
>> Here:
>>
>> adsm@adsm:~/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/third/greek> ls
>> t-ancientgreek.mkii  t-ancientgreek.tex  type-agr.mkii  type-agr.tex
>> t-ancientgreek.mkiv  t-oldgreek.tex      type-agr.mkiv
>> adsm@adsm:~/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/third/greek>
>>
>> The fonts are in:
>> adsm@adsm:~/context/tex/texmf/fonts/
>
> If you are in the directory of your document, what does
>
> kpsewhich t-ancientgreek.tex
>
> and
>
> luatools t-ancientgreek.tex
>
> return?

Humm... this:

adsm@adsm:~> kpsewhich t-ancientgreek.tex
adsm@adsm:~> luatools t-ancientgreek.tex
the file 'luatools.lua' is not found
adsm@adsm:~>

(Suppose something is wrong...). By the way I am using TexLive from a  
CD along with context minimals.

>
> Aditya


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Re: greek again

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Tue, 22 Jul 2008, cidadaum@sapo.pt wrote:

>
> Citando Aditya Mahajan <adityam@umich.edu>:
>
>> On Mon, 21 Jul 2008, cidadaum@sapo.pt wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, 21 Jul 2008, cidadaum at sapo.pt wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Where did you unzip the module?
>>>
>>>> Aditya
>>>
>>> Here:
>>>
>>> adsm@adsm:~/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/third/greek> ls
>>> t-ancientgreek.mkii  t-ancientgreek.tex  type-agr.mkii  type-agr.tex
>>> t-ancientgreek.mkiv  t-oldgreek.tex      type-agr.mkiv
>>> adsm@adsm:~/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/third/greek>
>>>
>>> The fonts are in:
>>> adsm@adsm:~/context/tex/texmf/fonts/
>>
>> If you are in the directory of your document, what does
>>
>> kpsewhich t-ancientgreek.tex
>>
>> and
>>
>> luatools t-ancientgreek.tex
>>
>> return?
>
> Humm... this:
>
> adsm@adsm:~> kpsewhich t-ancientgreek.tex
> adsm@adsm:~> luatools t-ancientgreek.tex
> the file 'luatools.lua' is not found
> adsm@adsm:~>
>
> (Suppose something is wrong...). By the way I am using TexLive from a
> CD along with context minimals.

The fact that luatools is not working does not matter too much since you 
are using mkii. But kpsewhich not returning anything means that ConTeXt 
does not know where the greek module is, and hence cannot find it. Try 
running

mktexlsr

and see if kpsewhich t-ancientgreek.tex returns a path to the file.

Aditya

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Re: greek again

[Armando Martins]

Em Tue, 22 Jul 2008 04:18:49 +0100, Aditya Mahajan <adityam@umich.edu>  
escreveu:

> On Tue, 22 Jul 2008, cidadaum@sapo.pt wrote:
>
>>
>> Citando Aditya Mahajan <adityam@umich.edu>:
>>
>>> On Mon, 21 Jul 2008, cidadaum@sapo.pt wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 21 Jul 2008, cidadaum at sapo.pt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Where did you unzip the module?
>>>>
>>>>> Aditya
>>>>
>>>> Here:
>>>>
>>>> adsm@adsm:~/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/third/greek> ls
>>>> t-ancientgreek.mkii  t-ancientgreek.tex  type-agr.mkii  type-agr.tex
>>>> t-ancientgreek.mkiv  t-oldgreek.tex      type-agr.mkiv
>>>> adsm@adsm:~/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/third/greek>
>>>>
>>>> The fonts are in:
>>>> adsm@adsm:~/context/tex/texmf/fonts/
>>>
>>> If you are in the directory of your document, what does
>>>
>>> kpsewhich t-ancientgreek.tex
>>>
>>> and
>>>
>>> luatools t-ancientgreek.tex
>>>
>>> return?
>>
>> Humm... this:
>>
>> adsm@adsm:~> kpsewhich t-ancientgreek.tex
>> adsm@adsm:~> luatools t-ancientgreek.tex
>> the file 'luatools.lua' is not found
>> adsm@adsm:~>
>>
>> (Suppose something is wrong...). By the way I am using TexLive from a
>> CD along with context minimals.
>
> The fact that luatools is not working does not matter too much since you
> are using mkii. But kpsewhich not returning anything means that ConTeXt
> does not know where the greek module is, and hence cannot find it. Try
> running
>
> mktexlsr


I have done it.

> and see if kpsewhich t-ancientgreek.tex returns a path to the file.

No it does not return a path.

Armando
>
> Aditya
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Re: greek again

[Thomas A. Schmitz]

On Jul 23, 2008, at 10:34 AM, Armando Martins wrote:

>>> (Suppose something is wrong...). By the way I am using TexLive  
>>> from a
>>> CD along with context minimals.

We need more information:

1. What is your operating system? How do you set up TeXLive from the  
CD? How do you set up the minimals?

2. Run the following commands and tell us the output:

echo $PATH

which kpsewhich

kpsewhich -expand-var '$TEXMF'

kpsewhich -expand-var '$TEXINPUTS'

which texhash

sudo texhash

As long as TeX can't find the module files, neither mkii nor mkiv will  
work, so that's the first and most important point.

Thomas
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Re: greek again

[cidadaum]

Citando "Thomas A. Schmitz" <thomas.schmitz@uni-bonn.de>:

>
> On Jul 23, 2008, at 10:34 AM, Armando Martins wrote:
>
>>>> (Suppose something is wrong...). By the way I am using TexLive
>>>> from a
>>>> CD along with context minimals.
>
> We need more information:
>
> 1. What is your operating system?

OpenSuse 10.3

> How do you set up TeXLive from the
> CD?
Having launched the apropriate file to my architecture (i-386-linux) I  
chose the option R (run from CDwithout installing).
But now I put back again the texlive from Suse (pity because my disk  
is falling short of space).

> How do you set up the minimals?

In the shell:
~/context/tex/setuptex ~/context/tex


>
> 2. Run the following commands and tell us the output:
>
> echo $PATH
adsm@adsm:~> echo $PATH
/opt/kde3/bin:/home/adsm/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/games:/usr/lib/jvm/jre/bin:/usr/lib/mit/bin:/usr/lib/mit/sbin

>
> which kpsewhich
adsm@adsm:~> which kpsewhich
/usr/bin/kpsewhich

>
> kpsewhich -expand-var '$TEXMF'
adsm@adsm:~> kpsewhich -expand-var '$TEXMF'
{/home/adsm/texmf,!!/etc/texmf,!!/var/lib/texmf,!!/usr/share/texmf,!!/usr/local/share/texmf,!!/usr/share/texmf/contrib}

>
> kpsewhich -expand-var '$TEXINPUTS'
adsm@adsm:~> kpsewhich -expand-var '$TEXINPUTS'
:/home/adsm/.TeX:/usr/share/doc/.TeX:/usr/doc/.TeX

>
> which texhash
adsm@adsm:~> which texhash
/usr/bin/texhash


>
> sudo texhash


adsm@adsm:~> sudo texhash
Palavra passe:
texhash: Updating /etc/texmf/ls-R...
texhash: Updating /usr/share/texmf/../../../var/lib/texmf/db/ls-R...
texhash: Updating /var/cache/fonts/ls-R...
texhash: Updating /var/lib/texmf/ls-R...
texhash: Done.
adsm@adsm:~>


adsm@adsm:~/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/third/greek> ls
t-ancientgreek.mkii  t-ancientgreek.tex  type-agr.mkii  type-agr.tex
t-ancientgreek.mkiv  t-oldgreek.tex      type-agr.mkiv


adsm@adsm:~/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/third/greek>  
~/context/tex/setuptex ~/context/tex
Setting "/home/adsm/context/tex" as TEXROOT.
adsm@adsm:~/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/third/greek>  
kpsewhere t-ancientgreek.tex
./t-ancientgreek.tex
./t-ancientgreek.tex
./t-ancientgreek.tex

Armando
>
> As long as TeX can't find the module files, neither mkii nor mkiv will
> work, so that's the first and most important point.
>
> Thomas
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Re: greek again

[Thomas A. Schmitz]

On Jul 23, 2008, at 11:21 PM, cidadaum@sapo.pt wrote:
>>
>
> OpenSuse 10.3
>

If memory serves right, SuSE has a few problems with its TeX setup: http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20080320.203129.aec3fb49.en.html

But this is not the problem now.

>> How do you set up TeXLive from the
>> CD?
> Having launched the apropriate file to my architecture (i-386-linux) I
> chose the option R (run from CDwithout installing).
> But now I put back again the texlive from Suse (pity because my disk
> is falling short of space).

That's your problem: you now have several conflicting TeX installations.

>
>
>> How do you set up the minimals?
>
> In the shell:
> ~/context/tex/setuptex ~/context/tex
>
>
>>
>> 2. Run the following commands and tell us the output:
>>
>> echo $PATH
> adsm@adsm:~> echo $PATH
> /opt/kde3/bin:/home/adsm/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/bin/ 
> X11:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/games:/usr/lib/jvm/jre/bin:/usr/lib/mit/bin:/ 
> usr/lib/mit/sbin

As you can see here, the binaries from the minimals are not in your  
PATH.

>
>
>>
>> which kpsewhich
> adsm@adsm:~> which kpsewhich
> /usr/bin/kpsewhich

This is a leftover from your SuSE TeX install.
>>
> adsm@adsm:~> kpsewhich -expand-var '$TEXMF'
> {/home/adsm/texmf,!!/etc/texmf,!!/var/lib/texmf,!!/usr/share/ 
> texmf,!!/usr/local/share/texmf,!!/usr/share/texmf/contrib}
>

Which means that only the TEXMF-trees of SuSE's installation are found.

>>
>> kpsewhich -expand-var '$TEXINPUTS'
> adsm@adsm:~> kpsewhich -expand-var '$TEXINPUTS'
> :/home/adsm/.TeX:/usr/share/doc/.TeX:/usr/doc/.TeX
>
>>
>> which texhash
> adsm@adsm:~> which texhash
> /usr/bin/texhash
>
>
>>
>> sudo texhash
>
>
> adsm@adsm:~> sudo texhash
> Palavra passe:
> texhash: Updating /etc/texmf/ls-R...
> texhash: Updating /usr/share/texmf/../../../var/lib/texmf/db/ls-R...
> texhash: Updating /var/cache/fonts/ls-R...
> texhash: Updating /var/lib/texmf/ls-R...
> texhash: Done.
> adsm@adsm:~>
>



>
> adsm@adsm:~/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/third/greek> ls
> t-ancientgreek.mkii  t-ancientgreek.tex  type-agr.mkii  type-agr.tex
> t-ancientgreek.mkiv  t-oldgreek.tex      type-agr.mkiv
>
>
> adsm@adsm:~/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/third/greek>
> ~/context/tex/setuptex ~/context/tex
> Setting "/home/adsm/context/tex" as TEXROOT.
> adsm@adsm:~/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/third/greek>
> kpsewhere t-ancientgreek.tex
> ./t-ancientgreek.tex
> ./t-ancientgreek.tex
> ./t-ancientgreek.tex
>>

This doesn't mean anything; TeX will always search the current  
directory first, that's why the module is found. You have several ways  
to proceed:

1. Use the minimals. In that case, you will have to set the directory  
which contains the binaries for your platform FIRST in your path  
variable. Assuming you are using bash, a command like this should do  
this:

PATH="/home/adsm/context/tex/texmf-linux/bin:$PATH"
export PATH

Then, to be sure, run

echo $PATH

again.  If all goes well, you should now see /home/adsm/context/tex/ 
texmf-linux/bin as first item in your $PATH. The binaries here will be  
found first and thus used. Try the commands with "kpsewhere" and  
"which" again (the ones in my previous mail). ConTeXt should now be  
able to find the module. If this works, we'll tell you how to make  
these changes happen automatically at login.

2. Use the SuSE TeX installation. In that case, you'll need to modify  
the texmf.cnf that SuSE installs. Possible, but maybe a bit  
overwhelming for a newbie, not recommended. (The only advantage is  
that in this case, TeX would be controlled by SuSE's package manager,  
but since the SuSE team are not overly interested in TeX and don't do  
frequent updates, this is not a real advantage.)

3. TeXLive 2008 will be out in a few days. If space is an issue on  
your system, you may not want to install it since it's pretty big, but  
it's what I use, and it's pretty straightforward. You have almost  
everything you'll ever need (ConTeXt, LaTeX, fonts, packages such as  
tikz, etc.), and the 2008 edition will include an update manager. The  
decisive step is again to put the path pointing to the TeXLive  
binaries first in your $PATH variable.

You're just two steps away from success, so don't give up!

Thomas
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Re: greek again

[Armando Martins]

Em Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:09:48 +0100, Thomas A. Schmitz  
<thomas.schmitz@uni-bonn.de> escreveu:

>
> On Jul 23, 2008, at 11:21 PM, cidadaum@sapo.pt wrote:
>>>
>>
>> OpenSuse 10.3
>>
>
> If memory serves right, SuSE has a few problems with its TeX setup:  
> http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20080320.203129.aec3fb49.en.html
>
> But this is not the problem now.
>
>>> How do you set up TeXLive from the
>>> CD?
>> Having launched the apropriate file to my architecture (i-386-linux) I
>> chose the option R (run from CDwithout installing).
>> But now I put back again the texlive from Suse (pity because my disk
>> is falling short of space).
>
> That's your problem: you now have several conflicting TeX installations.

Humm.. that twists my brains. I commented the variable pointing to the  
binaries of TeXLive CD in ~/.profile
Anyway...

> 3. TeXLive 2008 will be out in a few days. If space is an issue on
> your system, you may not want to install it since it's pretty big, but
> it's what I use, and it's pretty straightforward. You have almost
> everything you'll ever need (ConTeXt, LaTeX, fonts, packages such as
> tikz, etc.), and the 2008 edition will include an update manager. The
> decisive step is again to put the path pointing to the TeXLive
> binaries first in your $PATH variable.
>
> You're just two steps away from success, so don't give up!
>
> Thomas

They seem two steps of giant for me (so far I have processed only one file  
with context, a pretty large one, 60 pp., but limiting myself to  
elementary features).
I think I will move away to Ubuntu or some other distro. At the moment I  
am unhappy with Suse (for other reasons than Tex).
For now I will give you a break (going on holiday).
Any advice about Tex friendly distros?


Thanks
Armand
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Re: greek again

[Charles P. Schaum]

On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 11:29 +0100, Armando Martins wrote:

> Any advice about Tex friendly distros?
> 
> 

Well, I can only say this: My best experiences for "out of the box"
functionality are from Ubuntu. Like Debian, they have taken TeXlive and
broken it up into a number of packages to allow for some installation
options and less bloat. Of course, you have the typical Linux ideology
thing going on, so they also take whatever the DFSG thinks to be
"non-free" and separate it out as its own package. Then they gzip the
docs so you have to gunzip them if you want to use Acrobat, for example.

MacTeX on OS X is really done quite well. I have no complaints. But you
need a Mac, or forget it.

I like FreeBSD, but its ports system does not seem to have the same
philosophy as TeXlive, or there are just too few working on it there. I
mean, if Debian can do it, why don't the clever duckies just look at a
few build scripts... So there you either have to use the prebuilt
FreeBSD binaries and install it yourself or build it from source, which
I rather like to do anyway. I haven't tried on the other BSD's.

I have generally found the Redhat family to be increasingly irksome for
a number of reasons, not the least of which are SELinux and YUM. The
same goes for SUSE, where YaST is king. I stopped using them before I
moved from TeTeX. I am intrigued by Gentoo and its portage, but haven't
tried it. And, just for grins, you can run good ole TeX on Plan 9.

My last MikTeX experience yielded non-portable DVI files, that meaning
all DVI viewers under Linux that I tried could not read a DVI generated
by MikTeX. I think PDF works, though. But it's Microsoft . . .

Charles

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Re: greek again

[Martin Schröder]

2008/7/25 Charles P. Schaum <verbo.solo@sbcglobal.net>:
> Well, I can only say this: My best experiences for "out of the box"
> functionality are from Ubuntu. Like Debian, they have taken TeXlive and
> broken it up into a number of packages to allow for some installation

Ahm - has Ubuntu done anything or are they just using the wonderful
Debian packages?

> I like FreeBSD, but its ports system does not seem to have the same
> philosophy as TeXlive, or there are just too few working on it there. I
> mean, if Debian can do it, why don't the clever duckies just look at a
> few build scripts... So there you either have to use the prebuilt
> FreeBSD binaries and install it yourself or build it from source, which
> I rather like to do anyway. I haven't tried on the other BSD's.

OpenBSD has a very good TL port; AFAIK the other BSDs are catching up.

Best
   Martin
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Re: greek again

[John Culleton]

On Saturday 26 July 2008 09:05:01 am Martin Schröder wrote:
> 2008/7/25 Charles P. Schaum <verbo.solo@sbcglobal.net>:
> > Well, I can only say this: My best experiences for "out of the
> > box" functionality are from Ubuntu. Like Debian, they have taken
> > TeXlive and broken it up into a number of packages to allow for
> > some installation
>
> Ahm - has Ubuntu done anything or are they just using the wonderful
> Debian packages?
>
> > I like FreeBSD, but its ports system does not seem to have the
> > same philosophy as TeXlive, or there are just too few working on
> > it there. I mean, if Debian can do it, why don't the clever
> > duckies just look at a few build scripts... So there you either
> > have to use the prebuilt FreeBSD binaries and install it yourself
> > or build it from source, which I rather like to do anyway. I
> > haven't tried on the other BSD's.
>
> OpenBSD has a very good TL port; AFAIK the other BSDs are catching
> up.
>
> Best
>    Martin
>
I use texlive on Slackware. It also allows you to pick and choose what 
you install. My files end up in
/usr/local/texlive/2007

Slackware has the tetex package  in the Slackware distro but I always 
eliminate that one.  It is quite obsolete. 



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Re: greek again

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Mon, 21 Jul 2008, cidadaum@sapo.pt wrote:

>
> I am trying to use the greek module. It is installed but all I can get
> is greek without diacritics.
> Here is the log file:
>
>
> adsm@adsm:~> more greek_exp.log

> system          : module ancientgreek not found

Where did you unzip the module?

Aditya


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greek again

[cidadaum]

I am trying to use the greek module. It is installed but all I can get  
is greek without diacritics.
Here is the log file:


adsm@adsm:~> more greek_exp.log
This is pdfTeXk, Version 3.141592-1.40.3 (Web2C 7.5.6) (format=cont-en  
2008.7.20
)  21 JUL 2008 00:04
entering extended mode
  %&-line parsing enabled.
  (/media/TeXLive2007/texmf/web2c/natural.tcx)
**greek_exp.tex emergencyend
(./greek_exp.tex

ConTeXt  ver: 2007.01.12 15:56 MKII  fmt: 2008.7.20  int: english/english

language        : language en is active
system          : cont-new loaded
(/media/TeXLive2007/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/cont-new.tex
systems         : beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.tex
\boislevel=\count210
(/media/TeXLive2007/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/cont-new.mkii))
system          : cont-old loaded
(/media/TeXLive2007/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/cont-old.tex
loading         : Context Old Macros
)
system          : cont-fil loaded
(/media/TeXLive2007/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/cont-fil.tex
loading         : Context File Synonyms
)
system          : cont-sys.rme loaded
(/media/TeXLive2007/texmf-dist/tex/context/user/cont-sys.rme
(/media/TeXLive2007/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex)
(/media/TeXLive2007/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex)
(/media/TeXLive2007/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex)
(/media/TeXLive2007/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
(/media/TeXLive2007/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/type-map.tex)
(/media/TeXLive2007/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex)
(/media/TeXLive2007/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/type-akb.tex))
bodyfont        : 12pt rm is loaded
language        : patterns en->ec:ec->1->2:3 uk->ec:ec->2->2:3  
de->texnansi:tex
nansi->3->2:3 de->ec:ec->4->2:3 fr->texnansi:texnansi->5->2:3  
fr->ec:ec->6->2:3
  es->ec:ec->7->2:3 pt->texnansi:texnansi->8->2:3 pt->ec:ec->9->2:3  
it->texnansi
:texnansi->10->2:3 it->ec:ec->11->2:3 nl->texnansi:texnansi->12->2:3  
nl->ec:ec-
> 13->2:3 cz->il2:il2->14->2:3 cz->ec:ec->15->2:3 sk->il2:il2->16->2:3  
> sk->ec:ec
->17->2:3 pl->pl0:pl0->18->2:3 pl->ec:ec->19->2:3 pl->qx:qx->20->2:3 loaded
specials        : tex,postscript,rokicki loaded
\openout3 = `greek_exp.tui'.

system          : greek_exp.top loaded
(./greek_exp.top
specials        : loading definition file tpd
(/media/TeXLive2007/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/spec-tpd.tex
specials        : loading definition file fdf
(/media/TeXLive2007/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/spec-fdf.tex
\everygoto=\toks326
\PDFsymbolbox=\box157
\everyPDFxform=\toks327

(/media/TeXLive2007/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/spec-fdf.mkii))
specials        : fdf loaded
\everyPDFximage=\toks328
\PDFcurrenttransparency=\count211
)
specials        : fdf,tpd loaded
)
\openout0 = `greek_exp-mpgraph.mp'.

\openout0 = `mpgraph.mp'.

systems         : system commands are disabled
(/media/TeXLive2007/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex)
(/media/TeXLive2007/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex)
(/media/TeXLive2007/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex)
(/media/TeXLive2007/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
(/media/TeXLive2007/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/type-map.tex)
(/media/TeXLive2007/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex)
(/media/TeXLive2007/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/type-akb.tex)
(/media/TeXLive2007/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex)
(/media/TeXLive2007/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex)
(/media/TeXLive2007/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex)
(/media/TeXLive2007/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
(/media/TeXLive2007/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/type-map.tex)
(/media/TeXLive2007/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex)
(/media/TeXLive2007/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/type-akb.tex)
system          : module ancientgreek not found
(./greek_exp.tuo
systems         : possible problem with 8 bit output
) (./greek_exp.tuo) (./greek_exp.tuo) (./greek_exp.tuo) (./greek_exp.tuo)
(./greek_exp.tuo) (./greek_exp.tuo) (./greek_exp.tuo) (./greek_exp.tuo)
(./greek_exp.tuo)  
(/media/TeXLive2007/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/sort-def.tex)
(/media/TeXLive2007/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/sort-lan.tex)  
(./greek_exp.tuo)
(./greek_exp.tuo)  
(/media/TeXLive2007/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/pdfr-def.tex)
systems         : begin file greek_exp at line 5
! Undefined control sequence.
l.7 \localgreek
                {?????????? ???? ??? ??? ?????...

?
! Undefined control sequence.
l.11 \startgreek

?
! Undefined control sequence.
l.18 ...??? ??? ?? ????.\stopgreek
                                                    (I, 1, 16)
?
fonts           : resetting map file list
{/media/TeXLive2007/texmf-dist/fonts/map/pdftex/context/original-empty.map}
fonts           : using map file: texnansi-public-lm
{/media/TeXLive2007/texmf-dist/fonts/map/pdftex/context/texnansi-public-lm.map}
fonts           : using map file: original-base
{/media/TeXLive2007/texmf-dist/fonts/map/pdftex/context/original-base.map}
fonts           : using map file: ec-public-lm
{/media/TeXLive2007/texmf-dist/fonts/map/pdftex/context/ec-public-lm.map}
fonts           : using map file: ec-base
{/media/TeXLive2007/texmf-dist/fonts/map/pdftex/context/ec-base.map}
fonts           : using map file: lm-ec
{/media/TeXLive2007/texmf-dist/fonts/map/dvips/lm/lm-ec.map}
fonts           : using map file: 8r-base
{/media/TeXLive2007/texmf-dist/fonts/map/pdftex/context/8r-base.map}
fonts           : using map file: t5-base
{/media/TeXLive2007/texmf-dist/fonts/map/pdftex/context/t5-base.map}
fonts           : using map file: original-ams-base
{/media/TeXLive2007/texmf-dist/fonts/map/pdftex/context/original-ams-base.map}
fonts           : using map file: original-ams-euler
{/media/TeXLive2007/texmf-dist/fonts/map/pdftex/context/original-ams-euler.map}
fonts           : using map file: original-public-lm
{/media/TeXLive2007/texmf-dist/fonts/map/pdftex/context/original-public-lm.map}
[1.1]
systems         : end file greek_exp at line 20
system          : cont-err loaded
(/media/TeXLive2007/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/cont-err.tex
systems         : no file 'cont-sys.tex', using 'cont-sys.rme' instead
) )
Here is how much of TeX's memory you used:
  1480 strings out of 57406
  26919 string characters out of 539334
  4598521 words of memory out of 5526669
  41204 multiletter control sequences out of 10000+50000
  74872 words of font info for 37 fonts, out of 1200000 for 2000
  192 hyphenation exceptions out of 8191
  47i,18n,60p,264b,471s stack positions out of 5000i,500n,6000p,200000b,5000s
{/media/TeXLive2007/texmf-dist/fonts/enc/dvips/lm/lm-rep-cmrm.enc}{/media/Te
XLive2007/texmf-dist/fonts/enc/dvips/lm/lm-ec.enc}</media/TeXLive2007/texmf-dis
t/fonts/type1/bluesky/cm/cmmi12.pfb></media/TeXLive2007/texmf-dist/fonts/type1/
public/lm/lmr12.pfb>
Output written on greek_exp.pdf (1 page, 35542 bytes).
PDF statistics:
  23 PDF objects out of 1000 (max. 8388607)
  15 compressed objects within 1 object stream
  0 named destinations out of 1000 (max. 131072)
  1 words of extra memory for PDF output out of 10000 (max. 10000000)

Thanks for your help
Armando
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