Re: Thank you for the Chinese support, but still one question.

Re: Thank you for the Chinese support, but still one question.

[Hans Hagen]

Yue Wang wrote:
> Hi, Hans:
> 
> Today I am trying to compile my new book chapter on aerosol science
> using MKIV. It works great! Thank you.
> Most commands are successful (rm, ss, mono)  after I define a
> typescript for the Chinese font.
> commands like \bfa also works.
> However, basic TeX commands like \bf, \it, don't work.
> I attach a minimal example in the mail.
> Is there anything wrong in the document? Thank you.

there was a bug as well as the fact that your definition is wrong

% engine=luatex

\ctxlua{fonts.collections.trace = true}

\definefontfeature[zh][mode=node,script=hang,lang=zhs]

\starttypescript [serif] [zhfont]
     \definefontsynonym [zhserif]          [AdobeSongStd-Light] 
[features=zh]
     \definefontsynonym [zhserifbold]      [AdobeHeitiStd-Regular] 
[features=zh]
     \definefontfallback[serifwhatever]    [lmroman10-regular] 
[0x0000-0x0400] [force=yes]
     \definefontfallback[serifboldwhatever][lmroman10-bold] 
[0x0000-0x0400] [force=yes]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript [serif] [zhfont] [name]
     \definefontsynonym[Serif]    [zhserif]    [fallbacks=serifwhatever]
     \definefontsynonym[SerifBold][zhserifbold][fallbacks=serifboldwhatever]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript[myfont]
     \definetypeface[myfont][rm][serif][zhfont]
\stoptypescript

\usetypescript[myfont]
\setupbodyfont[myfont, rm, 12pt]

\starttext
     A 字体测试。 {\bf A 字体测试。{\tfx A 字体测试。 \bfx A 字体测试。} }
\stoptext

works with the beta (i uploaded a new version)

Hans

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Re: Thank you for the Chinese support, but still one question.

[Longmin Wang]

On Fri, Aug 08, 2008 at 11:55:21AM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:
>there was a bug as well as the fact that your definition is wrong
>
>% engine=luatex
>
>\ctxlua{fonts.collections.trace = true}
>
>\definefontfeature[zh][mode=node,script=hang,lang=zhs]
>
>\starttypescript [serif] [zhfont]
>     \definefontsynonym [zhserif]          [AdobeSongStd-Light] 
>[features=zh]
>     \definefontsynonym [zhserifbold]      [AdobeHeitiStd-Regular] 
>[features=zh]
>     \definefontfallback[serifwhatever]    [lmroman10-regular] 
>[0x0000-0x0400] [force=yes]
>     \definefontfallback[serifboldwhatever][lmroman10-bold] 
>[0x0000-0x0400] [force=yes]
>\stoptypescript
>
>\starttypescript [serif] [zhfont] [name]
>     \definefontsynonym[Serif]    [zhserif]    [fallbacks=serifwhatever]
>     \definefontsynonym[SerifBold][zhserifbold][fallbacks=serifboldwhatever]
>\stoptypescript
>
>\starttypescript[myfont]
>     \definetypeface[myfont][rm][serif][zhfont]
>\stoptypescript
>
>\usetypescript[myfont]
>\setupbodyfont[myfont, rm, 12pt]
>
>\starttext
>     A 字体测试。 {\bf A 字体测试。{\tfx A 字体测试。 \bfx A 字体测试。} }
>\stoptext
>
>works with the beta (i uploaded a new version)
>
>Hans

Hi, Hans, Thank you for the great works. But there is still a problem when
I test a more complicated file which is attached below. In this file,
both \bf and \bi give the same font lmroman10-bold.

I guess the reason is that I use the same Chinese font
AdobeHeitiStd-Regular for both SerifBold and SerifBoldItalic. But this
cannot be avoided since Chinese fonts have much fewer typefaces than
English fonts.

Would you give some suggestions to solve this problem? Thanks a lot.

Longmin Wang

The test file:
--------------------------------------
% engine=luatex
\ctxlua{fonts.collections.trace = true}
\definefontfeature[zh][mode=node,script=hang,lang=zhs]

\starttypescript [serif] [zhfont]
    \definefontsynonym [zhserif][AdobeSongStd-Light][features=zh]
    \definefontsynonym [zhserifbold][AdobeHeitiStd-Regular][features=zh]
    \definefontsynonym [zhserifitalic][AdobeKaitiStd-Regular][features=zh]
    \definefontsynonym [zhserifbolditalic][AdobeHeitiStd-Regular][features=zh]

    \definefontfallback[serifwhatever][lmroman10-regular][0x0000-0x0400][force=yes]
    \definefontfallback[serifboldwhatever][lmroman10-bold][0x0000-0x0400][force=yes]
    \definefontfallback[serifitalicwhatever][lmroman10-italic][0x0000-0x0400][force=yes]
    \definefontfallback[serifbolditalicwhatever][lmroman10-bolditalic][0x0000-0x0400][force=yes]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript [serif][zhfont][name]
    \definefontsynonym[Serif][zhserif][fallbacks=serifwhatever]
    \definefontsynonym[SerifBold][zhserifbold][fallbacks=serifboldwhatever]
    \definefontsynonym[SerifItalic][zhserifitalic][fallbacks=serifitalicwhatever]
    \definefontsynonym[SerifBoldItalic][zhserifbolditalic][fallbacks=serifbolditalicwhatever]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript[myfont]
    \definetypeface[myfont][rm][serif][zhfont]
\stoptypescript

\usetypescript[myfont]
\setupbodyfont[myfont, rm, 12pt]

\starttext

fonts {\bf fonts} {\bi fonts} {\it fonts}

\stoptext
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Math. Dept., Nankai Univ., China
http://math.nankai.edu.cn/~wanglm/
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Re: Thank you for the Chinese support, but still one question.

[Hans Hagen]

Longmin Wang wrote:

> Hi, Hans, Thank you for the great works. But there is still a problem when
> I test a more complicated file which is attached below. In this file,
> both \bf and \bi give the same font lmroman10-bold.
> 
> I guess the reason is that I use the same Chinese font
> AdobeHeitiStd-Regular for both SerifBold and SerifBoldItalic. But this

indeed, the name+featureset+size is unique, but fallbacks are not part 
of that hash

> cannot be avoided since Chinese fonts have much fewer typefaces than
> English fonts.
> 
> Would you give some suggestions to solve this problem? Thanks a lot.

i'll have a look at it, but it involves some changes in the lua code 
dealing with font definitions (unique hashes and such)

Hans

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Re: Thank you for the Chinese support, but still one question.

[Hans Hagen]

Longmin Wang wrote:

> Hi, Hans, Thank you for the great works. But there is still a problem when
> I test a more complicated file which is attached below. In this file,
> both \bf and \bi give the same font lmroman10-bold.

experimental patch in beta

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Re: Thank you for the Chinese support, but still one question.

[Longmin Wang]

On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 12:17:15PM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:
>Longmin Wang wrote:
>
>> Hi, Hans, Thank you for the great works. But there is still a problem when
>> I test a more complicated file which is attached below. In this file,
>> both \bf and \bi give the same font lmroman10-bold.
>
>experimental patch in beta
>

Now it works fine. Thank you. 

-- 
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Math. Dept., Nankai Univ., China
http://math.nankai.edu.cn/~wanglm/
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Re: Fwd: Thank you for the Chinese support, but still one question.

[Hans Hagen]

> Hi, Hans, Thank you for the great works. But there is still a problem when
> I test a more complicated file which is attached below. In this file,
> both \bf and \bi give the same font lmroman10-bold.
> 
> I guess the reason is that I use the same Chinese font
> AdobeHeitiStd-Regular for both SerifBold and SerifBoldItalic. But this
> cannot be avoided since Chinese fonts have much fewer typefaces than
> English fonts.
> 
> Would you give some suggestions to solve this problem? Thanks a lot.
> 
> Longmin Wang

i uploaded a beta

for some reason the fallbacks were not part of the hash that i use to
keep track of uniqueness of definitions

it seems to work ok now in the beta

this might also solve some of Thomas's problems

there will probably be a new current later today

Hans


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Re: Fwd: Thank you for the Chinese support, but still one question.

[Yanrui Li]

2008/10/30 Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>:

> i uploaded a beta
>
> for some reason the fallbacks were not part of the hash that i use to
> keep track of uniqueness of definitions
>
> it seems to work ok now in the beta
>
> this might also solve some of Thomas's problems
>
> there will probably be a new current later today
>
> Hans

 It runs fine. Thanks for the update very much.

-- 
Best wishes,
Li Yanrui
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Re: Thank you for the Chinese support, but still one question.

[Yue Wang]

I think this is a problem concerning the improper variables in the font:(
The em space should not get from the chinese fonts, but directly from
the font size the user invoked (for example, for 30pt font 1em=30pt ).

On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 9:43 PM, Yanrui Li <liyanrui.m2@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2008/10/24 Yue Wang <yuleopen@gmail.com>:
>
>> Oh, btw, Yanrui Li also has a problem concerning the space between
>> chinese and english (different space skips when use different chinese
>> fonts). He is also in the list so I think it is better to leave to him
>> to describe the problem.
>
> I have ever report the problem in the mail,
> http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2008/035084.html, with an
> example for test. Wolfgang gave me a temporary solution which is
> "\spaceskip .25em plus .25em \relax". But it can only works in
> bodyfont. To make the text appeared in chapter or title display
> normally, I had to do as follows:
>
> \def\WordSkip{\spaceskip .25em plus .25em \relax}
> \setuphead[chapter][textcommand=\WordSkip]
>
> --
> Best wishes,
> Li Yanrui
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Re: Thank you for the Chinese support, but still one question.

[Yanrui Li]

2008/10/24 Yue Wang <yuleopen@gmail.com>:

> Oh, btw, Yanrui Li also has a problem concerning the space between
> chinese and english (different space skips when use different chinese
> fonts). He is also in the list so I think it is better to leave to him
> to describe the problem.

I have ever report the problem in the mail,
http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2008/035084.html, with an
example for test. Wolfgang gave me a temporary solution which is
"\spaceskip .25em plus .25em \relax". But it can only works in
bodyfont. To make the text appeared in chapter or title display
normally, I had to do as follows:

\def\WordSkip{\spaceskip .25em plus .25em \relax}
\setuphead[chapter][textcommand=\WordSkip]

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Li Yanrui
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Re: Thank you for the Chinese support, but still one question.

[Yue Wang]

On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 9:14 PM, Yue Wang <yuleopen@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi, Hans:
>
>>
>> more detail needed, what problem, what test file
>>
>
> OK, I forwarded the source code from Longming Wang to you in a private
> mail. It was once solved, but later appeared again (maybe during the
> 10/1 update).
>
> Yue Wang
>

Oh, btw, Yanrui Li also has a problem concerning the space between
chinese and english (different space skips when use different chinese
fonts). He is also in the list so I think it is better to leave to him
to describe the problem.
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Re: Thank you for the Chinese support, but still one question.

[Yue Wang]

Hi, Hans:

>
> more detail needed, what problem, what test file
>

OK, I forwarded the source code from Longming Wang to you in a private
mail. It was once solved, but later appeared again (maybe during the
10/1 update).

Yue Wang
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Re: Thank you for the Chinese support, but still one question.

[Hans Hagen]

Yue Wang wrote:
> Hi, Hans
> 
> On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 11:21 AM, Yanrui Li <liyanrui.m2@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 12:17:15PM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:
>>> Longmin Wang wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi, Hans, Thank you for the great works. But there is still a problem when
>>>> I test a more complicated file which is attached below. In this file,
>>>> both \bf and \bi give the same font lmroman10-bold.
>>> experimental patch in beta
>>>
>> Hi, Hans,
>>
>> Now, a problem like it  appeared again. Can the experimental patch still work?
>>
> 
> I can confirm that the problem is still there.

more detail needed, what problem, what test file

(we don't keep an everlasting stack of problems)

Hans

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Re: Thank you for the Chinese support, but still one question.

[Yue Wang]

Hi, Hans

On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 11:21 AM, Yanrui Li <liyanrui.m2@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 12:17:15PM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:
>>Longmin Wang wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, Hans, Thank you for the great works. But there is still a problem when
>>> I test a more complicated file which is attached below. In this file,
>>> both \bf and \bi give the same font lmroman10-bold.
>>
>>experimental patch in beta
>>
>
> Hi, Hans,
>
> Now, a problem like it  appeared again. Can the experimental patch still work?
>

I can confirm that the problem is still there.


> Best wishes,
> Li Yanrui
> _


Yue Wang
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Re: Thank you for the Chinese support, but still one question.

[Yanrui Li]

On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 12:17:15PM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:
>Longmin Wang wrote:
>
>> Hi, Hans, Thank you for the great works. But there is still a problem when
>> I test a more complicated file which is attached below. In this file,
>> both \bf and \bi give the same font lmroman10-bold.
>
>experimental patch in beta
>

Hi, Hans,

Now, a problem like it  appeared again. Can the experimental patch still work?

Best wishes,
Li Yanrui
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