From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/45050 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alan BRASLAU Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: documentation, was PhD Thesis in ConTeXt Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 23:27:13 +0200 Organization: CEA DSM-IRAMIS-SPEC Message-ID: <200810232327.13674.alan.braslau@cea.fr> References: <49008C23.2000803@elvenkind.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1224797343 18842 80.91.229.12 (23 Oct 2008 21:29:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 21:29:03 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Thu Oct 23 23:30:03 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Kt7kn-0001uS-BV for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 23:30:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id C96141FA4C; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 23:28:53 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 26722-02-5; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 23:27:50 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C2991FBAC; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 23:27:50 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6758B1FA4C for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 23:27:48 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 27381-02-3 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 23:27:14 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (smtp4-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.30]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFCEC1FBBE for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 23:27:14 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C70A3EA2BD for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 23:27:14 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from drec-hb-001817.localnet (cev75-1-81-57-248-225.fbx.proxad.net [81.57.248.225]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 520243EA2B2 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 23:27:14 +0200 (CEST) User-Agent: KMail/1.10.1 (Linux/2.6.26; KDE/4.1.2; i686; ; ) In-Reply-To: <49008C23.2000803@elvenkind.com> Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:45050 Archived-At: I like the manuals very much (!), yet I have found that I must also turn to the wiki, google, browsing the source code or this mailing list to answer some of my questions. I have now reached a point on the learning curve were I really appreciate the careful design that has gone into context, and would really like to see the manuals updated. I did not contribute to this discussion to complain and would be willing to participate (modestly, with the little time available, as is the case for everyone!). Taco has gotten to the point that someone must manage the rewriting of the documentation, but other help is also needed. Once I learn how to download and compile the complete sources, I will then see where I feel that I might have enough knowledge to do (a little) something... Alan On Thursday 23 October 2008 16:37:23 Taco Hoekwater wrote: > Hi, > > Aditya Mahajan wrote: > > On Wed, 22 Oct 2008, Alan BRASLAU wrote: > >> My question to the mailing list: is this task structured? Is this being > >> managed by anyone? > > > > Unfortunately, not. > > Aditya's reply sums it up pretty well. I just want to add a quick note. > > After at least half a dozen reiterations of this discussion (and it > is indeed always exactly the same discussion), I have now reached the > point where I no longer feel the slightest need to take any action any > more. From where I stand, it seems that the unhappy people just want > to complain about, but are not willing to help improve the existing > documentation, and that the happy people just want to post pointers > but fail to see a real need to improve anything. > > I myself would be much more willing to spend time on (managing|writing) > the manual if there were any people showing an active interest in it. > > Best wishes, > Taco ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________