End Notes and Minimals

End Notes and Minimals

[Bart C. Wise]

I've tried several things to get end notes working with the Minimals 
distribution (MkIV).  However, nothing seems to work and what worked for MkII 
does not work now.  Is there a new method for getting end notes in MkIV?

Thank,
Bart
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Re: End Notes and Minimals

[Bart C. Wise]

Below are four different ways I've tried to get endnotes to work.  When I 
compile with "texexec" it work fine --- I get endnotes.  However, when I 
compile with "texexec --lua" the footnotes are placed on the page where they 
are referenced.  I would prefer to have the footnote/placefootnotes work so 
that I can easily change the output.  Any ideas?

******* #1
\setupfootnotes[location=none]
\starttext                    
\dorecurse{100}{test \footnote{eee}\endgraf}
\page                                       
\placefootnotes[location=none]              
\stoptext

******* #2
\setupfootnotes[location=none]
\starttext
\dorecurse{100}{test \footnote{eee}\endgraf}
\page
\placefootnotes
\stoptext

******* #3
\setupnote[endnote][location=none]                               
\starttext                                                       
\dorecurse{100}{test \endnote{eee}\endgraf}                      
\page                                                            
\placenotes[endnote]                                             
\stoptext                                                        

******* #4
\starttext
\dorecurse{6}{ \input tufte \endnote{\input knuth\relax} }
\page
\placenotes[endnote]
\stoptext


Help!!
Bart

On Tuesday 25 November 2008 06:57:58 am Bart C. Wise wrote:
> I've tried several things to get end notes working with the Minimals
> distribution (MkIV).  However, nothing seems to work and what worked for
> MkII does not work now.  Is there a new method for getting end notes in
> MkIV?
>
> Thank,
> Bart
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Re: End Notes and Minimals

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 25.11.2008 um 19:39 schrieb Bart C. Wise:

> Below are four different ways I've tried to get endnotes to work.   
> When I
> compile with "texexec" it work fine --- I get endnotes.  However,  
> when I
> compile with "texexec --lua" the footnotes are placed on the page  
> where they
> are referenced.  I would prefer to have the footnote/placefootnotes  
> work so
> that I can easily change the output.  Any ideas?
>
> ******* #1
> \setupfootnotes[location=none]
> \starttext
> \dorecurse{100}{test \footnote{eee}\endgraf}
> \page
> \placefootnotes[location=none]
> \stoptext
>
> ******* #2
> \setupfootnotes[location=none]
> \starttext
> \dorecurse{100}{test \footnote{eee}\endgraf}
> \page
> \placefootnotes
> \stoptext
>
> ******* #3
> \setupnote[endnote][location=none]
> \starttext
> \dorecurse{100}{test \endnote{eee}\endgraf}
> \page
> \placenotes[endnote]
> \stoptext
>
> ******* #4
> \starttext
> \dorecurse{6}{ \input tufte \endnote{\input knuth\relax} }
> \page
> \placenotes[endnote]
> \stoptext

It's a bug in the \expdoifcommonelse macro used in MkIV,
it evaluates always the true value and you get footnotes.

Here is a example for Hans:

\starttext

\doifcommonelse{text,page}{none}
   {true}
   {false}

\expdoifcommonelse{text,page}{none}
   {true}
   {false}

\stoptext

Wolfgang

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Re: End Notes and Minimals

[Bart C. Wise]

Hans,

What's the chances on getting this fixed?  Or is there a stable branch 
somewhere that I can grab?

Thanks!
Bart

On Tuesday 25 November 2008 11:47:38 am Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> Am 25.11.2008 um 19:39 schrieb Bart C. Wise:
> > Below are four different ways I've tried to get endnotes to work.
> > When I
> > compile with "texexec" it work fine --- I get endnotes.  However,
> > when I
> > compile with "texexec --lua" the footnotes are placed on the page
> > where they
> > are referenced.  I would prefer to have the footnote/placefootnotes
> > work so
> > that I can easily change the output.  Any ideas?
> >
> > ******* #1
> > \setupfootnotes[location=none]
> > \starttext
> > \dorecurse{100}{test \footnote{eee}\endgraf}
> > \page
> > \placefootnotes[location=none]
> > \stoptext
> >
> > ******* #2
> > \setupfootnotes[location=none]
> > \starttext
> > \dorecurse{100}{test \footnote{eee}\endgraf}
> > \page
> > \placefootnotes
> > \stoptext
> >
> > ******* #3
> > \setupnote[endnote][location=none]
> > \starttext
> > \dorecurse{100}{test \endnote{eee}\endgraf}
> > \page
> > \placenotes[endnote]
> > \stoptext
> >
> > ******* #4
> > \starttext
> > \dorecurse{6}{ \input tufte \endnote{\input knuth\relax} }
> > \page
> > \placenotes[endnote]
> > \stoptext
>
> It's a bug in the \expdoifcommonelse macro used in MkIV,
> it evaluates always the true value and you get footnotes.
>
> Here is a example for Hans:
>
> \starttext
>
> \doifcommonelse{text,page}{none}
>    {true}
>    {false}
>
> \expdoifcommonelse{text,page}{none}
>    {true}
>    {false}
>
> \stoptext
>
> Wolfgang
>
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Re: End Notes and Minimals

[Taco Hoekwater]

Bart C. Wise wrote:
> Hans,
> 
> What's the chances on getting this fixed?  

This is the bug:

--- syst-lua.lua.orig   2008-11-27 10:39:58.396303891 +0100
+++ syst-lua.lua        2008-11-27 10:40:02.063303374 +0100
@@ -46,8 +46,8 @@
 function commands.doifcommonelse(a,b)
     local ha = h[a]
     local hb = h[b]
-    if not ha then ha = s:match(a) h[a] = ha end
-    if not hb then hb = s:match(b) h[b] = hb end
+    if not ha then ha = {s:match(a)} h[a] = ha end
+    if not hb then hb = {s:match(b)} h[b] = hb end
     for i=1,#ha do
         for j=1,#hb do
             if ha[i] == hb[i] then

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Re: End Notes and Minimals

[Hans Hagen]

Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> 
> Bart C. Wise wrote:
>> Hans,
>>
>> What's the chances on getting this fixed?  
> 
> This is the bug:
> 
> --- syst-lua.lua.orig   2008-11-27 10:39:58.396303891 +0100
> +++ syst-lua.lua        2008-11-27 10:40:02.063303374 +0100
> @@ -46,8 +46,8 @@
>  function commands.doifcommonelse(a,b)
>      local ha = h[a]
>      local hb = h[b]
> -    if not ha then ha = s:match(a) h[a] = ha end
> -    if not hb then hb = s:match(b) h[b] = hb end
> +    if not ha then ha = {s:match(a)} h[a] = ha end
> +    if not hb then hb = {s:match(b)} h[b] = hb end
>      for i=1,#ha do
>          for j=1,#hb do
>              if ha[i] == hb[i] then
                               ^
                         also wrong

sorry for not testing this better


local s = lpeg.Ct(lpeg.splitat(","))
local h = { }

function commands.doifcommonelse(a,b)
     local ha = h[a]
     local hb = h[b]
     if not ha then ha = s:match(a) h[a] = ha end
     if not hb then hb = s:match(b) h[b] = hb end
     for i=1,#ha do
         for j=1,#hb do
             if ha[i] == hb[j] then
                 return cs.testcase(true)
             end
         end
     end
     return cs.testcase(false)
end

function commands.doifinsetelse(a,b)
     local hb = h[b]
     if not hb then hb = s:match(b) h[b] = hb end
     for i=1,#hb do
         if a == hb[i] then
             return cs.testcase(true)
         end
     end
     return cs.testcase(false)
end



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Re: End Notes and Minimals

[Bart C. Wise]

Hans,

I tried the changes, but now footnotes do not appear at all!

Here's a copy of the code that I used (combining both Hans' and Taco's changes 
-- although I tried several variants).

local s = lpeg.Ct(lpeg.splitat(","))
local h = { }

function commands.doifcommonelse(a,b)
        local ha = h[a]
        local hb = h[b]
        if not ha then ha = {s:match(a)} h[a] = ha end
        if not hb then hb = {s:match(b)} h[b] = hb end
        for i=1,#ha do
                for j=1,#hb do
                        if ha[i] == hb[j] then
                                return cs.testcase(true)
                        end
                end
        end
        return cs.testcase(false)
end

function commands.doifinsetelse(a,b)
        local hb = h[b]
        if not hb then hb = {s:match(b)} h[b] = hb end
        for i=1,#hb do
                if a == hb[i] then
                        return cs.testcase(true)
                end
        end
        return cs.testcase(false)
end

Ideas?

Thanks,
Bart
On Thursday 27 November 2008 03:17, Hans Hagen wrote:
> local s = lpeg.Ct(lpeg.splitat(","))
> local h = { }
>
> function commands.doifcommonelse(a,b)
>      local ha = h[a]
>      local hb = h[b]
>      if not ha then ha = s:match(a) h[a] = ha end
>      if not hb then hb = s:match(b) h[b] = hb end
>      for i=1,#ha do
>          for j=1,#hb do
>              if ha[i] == hb[j] then
>                  return cs.testcase(true)
>              end
>          end
>      end
>      return cs.testcase(false)
> end
>
> function commands.doifinsetelse(a,b)
>      local hb = h[b]
>      if not hb then hb = s:match(b) h[b] = hb end
>      for i=1,#hb do
>          if a == hb[i] then
>              return cs.testcase(true)
>          end
>      end
>      return cs.testcase(false)
> end
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Re: End Notes and Minimals

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 27.11.2008 um 20:44 schrieb Bart C. Wise:

> Hans,
>
> I tried the changes, but now footnotes do not appear at all!
>
> Here's a copy of the code that I used (combining both Hans' and  
> Taco's changes
> -- although I tried several variants).
>
> local s = lpeg.Ct(lpeg.splitat(","))
> local h = { }
>
> function commands.doifcommonelse(a,b)
>        local ha = h[a]
>        local hb = h[b]
>        if not ha then ha = {s:match(a)} h[a] = ha end
>        if not hb then hb = {s:match(b)} h[b] = hb end
>        for i=1,#ha do
>                for j=1,#hb do
>                        if ha[i] == hb[j] then
>                                return cs.testcase(true)
>                        end
>                end
>        end
>        return cs.testcase(false)
> end
>
> function commands.doifinsetelse(a,b)
>        local hb = h[b]
>        if not hb then hb = {s:match(b)} h[b] = hb end
>        for i=1,#hb do
>                if a == hb[i] then
>                        return cs.testcase(true)
>                end
>        end
>        return cs.testcase(false)
> end
>
> Ideas?

You should tell us what you have done, I replaced the old function
in core-job.lua with the new from Hans and I get endnotes with your
test file.

Wolfgang

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Re: End Notes and Minimals

[Bart C. Wise]

Thanks Wolfgang.

I looked at Taco's diff file and changed the routines in syst-lua.lua.  
However, I followed you're lead and changed core-job.lua and it works!  Yes 
the footnotes come out.

New problem (also happens on MkII), if there are a lot of end notes, instead 
of going to the next page after the first page is filled, they go to the 
bottom of the first page and dissappear off the bottom.  The page count 
appears to be correct, but the notes are the second page.

How to I get the footnotes (end notes) to appear on more than one page.  I'm 
using footnote/placefootnotes combination to product the end notes.

Help!

Bart

On Thursday 27 November 2008 13:04, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> Am 27.11.2008 um 20:44 schrieb Bart C. Wise:
> > Hans,
> >
> > I tried the changes, but now footnotes do not appear at all!
> >
> > Here's a copy of the code that I used (combining both Hans' and
> > Taco's changes
> > -- although I tried several variants).
> >
> > local s = lpeg.Ct(lpeg.splitat(","))
> > local h = { }
> >
> > function commands.doifcommonelse(a,b)
> >        local ha = h[a]
> >        local hb = h[b]
> >        if not ha then ha = {s:match(a)} h[a] = ha end
> >        if not hb then hb = {s:match(b)} h[b] = hb end
> >        for i=1,#ha do
> >                for j=1,#hb do
> >                        if ha[i] == hb[j] then
> >                                return cs.testcase(true)
> >                        end
> >                end
> >        end
> >        return cs.testcase(false)
> > end
> >
> > function commands.doifinsetelse(a,b)
> >        local hb = h[b]
> >        if not hb then hb = {s:match(b)} h[b] = hb end
> >        for i=1,#hb do
> >                if a == hb[i] then
> >                        return cs.testcase(true)
> >                end
> >        end
> >        return cs.testcase(false)
> > end
> >
> > Ideas?
>
> You should tell us what you have done, I replaced the old function
> in core-job.lua with the new from Hans and I get endnotes with your
> test file.
>
> Wolfgang
>
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Re: End Notes and Minimals

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 27.11.2008 um 21:43 schrieb Bart C. Wise:

> Thanks Wolfgang.
>
> I looked at Taco's diff file and changed the routines in syst-lua.lua.
> However, I followed you're lead and changed core-job.lua and it  
> works!  Yes
> the footnotes come out.
>
> New problem (also happens on MkII), if there are a lot of end notes,  
> instead
> of going to the next page after the first page is filled, they go to  
> the
> bottom of the first page and dissappear off the bottom.  The page  
> count
> appears to be correct, but the notes are the second page.

Do you know if this is font dependent, I had a similiar problem with  
footnotes
and Garamond not so long ago (also MkII and MkIV).

> How to I get the footnotes (end notes) to appear on more than one  
> page.  I'm
> using footnote/placefootnotes combination to product the end notes.
>
> Help!

Example!!!

Wolfgang

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Re: End Notes and Minimals

[Bart C. Wise]

On Thursday 27 November 2008 14:00, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> Am 27.11.2008 um 21:43 schrieb Bart C. Wise:
> > Thanks Wolfgang.
> >
> > I looked at Taco's diff file and changed the routines in syst-lua.lua.
> > However, I followed you're lead and changed core-job.lua and it
> > works!  Yes
> > the footnotes come out.
> >
> > New problem (also happens on MkII), if there are a lot of end notes,
> > instead
> > of going to the next page after the first page is filled, they go to
> > the
> > bottom of the first page and dissappear off the bottom.  The page
> > count
> > appears to be correct, but the notes are the second page.
>
> Do you know if this is font dependent, I had a similiar problem with
> footnotes
> and Garamond not so long ago (also MkII and MkIV).
>
> > How to I get the footnotes (end notes) to appear on more than one
> > page.  I'm
> > using footnote/placefootnotes combination to product the end notes.
> >
> > Help!
>
> Example!!!
>

Yes, I should have given an example.  I tried a test program and it worked 
just fine.  So I'll take my current project and attempt to reduce it down to 
something simple.  It's probably something I'm doing wrong.  I'll start a new 
thread if I can't figure it out.

Thanks to Hans, Taco and Wolfgang for helping with the issue.

Bart
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