From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/46893 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Bart C. Wise" Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: PDF Meta Tags Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 06:51:36 -0700 Message-ID: <200901200651.36129.bntgcontext@wiseguysweb.com> References: <200901192206.37977.bntgcontext@wiseguysweb.com> <20090120111008.GL22175@phare.normalesup.org> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1232459632 28091 80.91.229.12 (20 Jan 2009 13:53:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 13:53:52 +0000 (UTC) To: ntg-context@ntg.nl Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Tue Jan 20 14:55:01 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LPH49-00009R-Ga for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Tue, 20 Jan 2009 14:54:53 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EE761FDCF; Tue, 20 Jan 2009 14:53:34 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 31694-02; Tue, 20 Jan 2009 14:52:26 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 711DB1FCDF; Tue, 20 Jan 2009 14:52:26 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id F19A21FCDF for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2009 14:52:24 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 26743-02 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2009 14:51:44 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from filter3-ams.mf.surf.net (filter3-ams.mf.surf.net [192.87.102.71]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 534F41FA2B for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2009 14:51:44 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from out02.mta.xmission.com (out02.mta.xmission.com [166.70.13.232]) by filter3-ams.mf.surf.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n0KDpgH8018264 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2009 14:51:43 +0100 Original-Received: from mx04.mta.xmission.com ([166.70.13.214]) by out02.mta.xmission.com with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1LPH12-0004ls-R9 for ntg-context@ntg.nl; Tue, 20 Jan 2009 06:51:40 -0700 Original-Received: from bwise.fttp.xmission.com ([166.70.232.60] helo=zeus.localnet) by mx04.mta.xmission.com with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LPH12-000400-AG for ntg-context@ntg.nl; Tue, 20 Jan 2009 06:51:40 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.10.4 (Linux/2.6.27-11-generic; KDE/4.1.4; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: Content-Disposition: inline X-XM-SPF: eid=; ; ; mid=; ; ; hst=mx04.mta.xmission.com; ; ; ip=166.70.232.60; ; ; frm=bntgcontext@wiseguysweb.com; ; ; spf=none X-XM-DomainKey: sender_domain=wiseguysweb.com; ; ; sender=bntgcontext@wiseguysweb.com; ; ; status=no signature X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 166.70.232.60 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: bntgcontext@wiseguysweb.com X-Spam-DCC: XMission; sa04 1397; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 X-Spam-Combo: ;ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Spam-Relay-Country: X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Thu, 07 Dec 2006 04:40:56 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on mx04.mta.xmission.com) X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=166.70.13.232; country=US; region=UT; city=Salt Lake City; latitude=40.7242; longitude=-111.8787; metrocode=770; areacode=801; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=40.7242,-111.8787&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 168015178 - 780679229290 X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 192.87.102.71 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:46893 Archived-At: On Tue January 20 2009 4:33:27 am luigi scarso wrote: > On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Arthur Reutenauer < > > arthur.reutenauer@normalesup.org> wrote: > > > I call that BS: I've never heard of such "meta tags" for PDF giving > > > the page count. The page count is in the root /Pages object per PDF > > > specification. > > > > I still suspect Bart's publisher means the tags that are part of > > Tagged PDF, even if he doesn't know their actual name, and has clearly > > a wrong idea of what they really contain. > > to avoid confusione (at least to me): > xmp and Tagged pdf are different things. Thanks to all for the information so far, although from all indications, it doesn't look promising. I talked to the publisher again and he said that he would send me the exact error message, but I have not received it yet. But he did say that his printing shop wants the ability to download just the header information from a pdf rather than the whole pdf file which may be up to 80 mbytes. From that header information they will have the ability to render individual pages rather than the whole document. For example, they could request page 264 and render that single page as a jpeg. Note that this is information from the publisher, not the printing shop that is doing the work, so technically, the publisher's jargon may be inaccurate, but a basic understanding of the needed functionality is there. When I get specific information from the printing shop, I'll pass it along. As a side note, I have published with them in the past, and this seems to be a recent change on their part. So I may be able to talk my way into letting them take the pdf file without the tagged information. But needless to say, I'm very concerned. If tagged pdf support is not available in ConTeXt/LuaTeX, I feel that difficulties are either here now, or at best, looming on the horizon. Thanks so much, Bart ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________