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micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="mvpLiMfbWzRoNl4x" Content-Disposition: inline --mvpLiMfbWzRoNl4x Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 02:05:01PM +0100, Otared Kavian wrote: > Hi Hans, Khaled, and Idris, > > If a humble opinion from an ordinary user may be issued, I agree with =20 > Khaled that it would be extremely useful to have some basic default =20 > settings for Arabic fonts, and even more generally for any particular =20 > fonts used for other languages. This would not prevent those specialist= =20 > typesetters who want particular features to be turned on, to do so=20 > through appropriate mechanisms. > > As a basic user I am frustrated when using mkiv, that most declaration = =20 > of features are completely cryptic, and not being a specialist of OTF or= =20 > other font specifications, I don't know which features are essential for= =20 > writing and typesetting an article in Persian or any language using=20 > Arabic alphabet. I totally agree with you, more ever I hop that at some point in the future, just selecting certain language will be enough to get proper display of it, some thing like: \mainlanguage[arabic] \startext =D8=A3=D9=87=D9=84=D8=A7 =D8=A8=D8=A7=D9=84=D8=B9=D8=A7=D9=84=D9=85! \stoptext Should be all what I user need to get an Arabic page. I can even imaging a script analyzer in MkIV that classifies input text and applies fonts/font features per script (Pango kinda does this), with may be some high level commands like: \setupbodyfont[arabic=3Dfoo,latin=3Dbar] Which specifies the default font per script. Regards, Khaled --=20 Khaled Hosny Arabic localizer and member of Arabeyes.org team --mvpLiMfbWzRoNl4x Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkmhvbsACgkQRoqITGOuyPLF6wCghiRATcC+ErU7dLr7teym5s+I ATQAoIGMBH+gJvJm0uX8Cn0WZy/hCKgB =Huzn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --mvpLiMfbWzRoNl4x-- --===============0964035857== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ --===============0964035857==--