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From: Khaled Hosny <khaledhosny@eglug.org>
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
Subject: Re: Making necessary OpenType features on by default
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 14:25:15 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090223122515.GA9276@khaled-laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <49A27DA1.2090306@wxs.nl>


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On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 11:42:41AM +0100, Hans Hagen wrote:
> Otared Kavian wrote:
>> Hi Hans, Khaled, and Idris,
>>
>> If a humble opinion from an ordinary user may be issued, I agree with  
>> Khaled that it would be extremely useful to have some basic default  
>> settings for Arabic fonts, and even more generally for any particular  
>> fonts used for other languages. This would not prevent those specialist 
>> typesetters who want particular features to be turned on, to do so  
>> through appropriate mechanisms.
>>
>> As a basic user I am frustrated when using mkiv, that most declaration  
>> of features are completely cryptic, and not being a specialist of OTF 
>> or other font specifications, I don't know which features are essential 
>> for writing and typesetting an article in Persian or any language using 
>> Arabic alphabet.
>> While the following is quite easy to understand and to use in XeConTeXt
>> %%%%%%%%%
>
> well, it might be easy to understand given that default features are  
> enabled but on the other hand,. when you want to disable a feature you  
> need to know what is enabled so in practice you have the same problem

Yes, but the majority if people want need that, if I want to play with
OpenType features then I'm supposed to know what I'm doing, while most
people will be happy with the default features (given it is a reasonable
default of course.)

[...]

> so, it seems to depend on calt but turning on calt by default is *not*  
> what the ms spec recommends for arabtype
>
> you see the problem?

I think is is arabtype's problem if they suggest turning calt off by
default, if I've contextual alternatives in my font this means I think
those alternatives are necessary to render text correctly, otherwise I
would have used a stylistic set.

Regards,
 Khaled

-- 
 Khaled Hosny
 Arabic localizer and member of Arabeyes.org team

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-02-23 12:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-02-20 18:39 Khaled Hosny
2009-02-20 18:57 ` Hans Hagen
2009-02-20 19:31   ` Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد
2009-02-20 21:02     ` Khaled Hosny
2009-02-20 21:23       ` Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد
2009-02-20 22:10         ` Hans Hagen
2009-02-20 22:26           ` Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد
2009-02-21 23:53             ` Karl Berry
2009-02-20 20:23   ` Khaled Hosny
2009-02-20 22:07     ` Hans Hagen
2009-02-20 22:49       ` Khaled Hosny
2009-02-21 15:58         ` Ilda Khaki
2009-02-23 10:58           ` Hans Hagen
2009-02-21 13:05   ` Otared Kavian
2009-02-22 21:03     ` Khaled Hosny
2009-02-22 22:44       ` Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد
2009-02-23 12:02         ` Khaled Hosny
2009-02-23 13:00           ` Hans Hagen
2009-02-23 15:34           ` Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد
2009-02-23 17:15             ` Khaled Hosny
2009-02-23 17:56               ` Idris Samawi Hamid
2009-02-23 22:51                 ` Khaled Hosny
2009-02-23 23:19                   ` Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد
2009-02-24 20:41                     ` Khaled Hosny
2009-02-25  2:30                       ` Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد
2009-02-23 10:53       ` Hans Hagen
2009-02-23 12:09         ` Khaled Hosny
2009-02-23 12:17           ` Thomas A. Schmitz
2009-02-23 12:28             ` Hans Hagen
2009-02-23 16:56               ` Khaled Hosny
2009-02-23 17:01                 ` Taco Hoekwater
2009-02-23 17:04                   ` Taco Hoekwater
2009-02-23 17:49                   ` Khaled Hosny
2009-02-23 23:23                 ` Hans Hagen
2009-02-24 15:49                   ` Idris Samawi Hamid
2009-02-24 16:03                     ` Hans Hagen
2009-02-23 12:36             ` Khaled Hosny
2009-02-22 22:54     ` Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد
2009-02-22 23:35     ` Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد
2009-02-21 21:14   ` Otared Kavian
2009-02-23 10:42     ` Hans Hagen
2009-02-23 12:25       ` Khaled Hosny [this message]
2009-02-23 12:46         ` Khaled Hosny
2009-02-23 12:56         ` Hans Hagen
2009-02-20 18:58 ` Hans Hagen
2009-02-20 20:27   ` Khaled Hosny
2009-02-20 22:09     ` Hans Hagen
2009-02-20 22:46 ` Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد
2009-02-21 11:41   ` Hans Hagen
2009-02-22 20:54     ` Khaled Hosny
2009-02-22 23:08       ` Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد
2009-02-22 13:51   ` Khaled Hosny

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