* Problem with "packed" and "\space" / "broad" and "/nospace"
@ 2009-02-23 20:52 Bernd Kosubek
2009-02-23 20:56 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Bernd Kosubek @ 2009-02-23 20:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hallo all!
The following lines demonstrates my problem:
{
\setupspacing[packed]
\startalignment[right]
xxxx xxxx.
yyyy yyyy yyyy yyyy.
zzzz zzzz zzzz zzzz.
xxxx xxxx.
yyyy yyyy yyyy yyyy.\space{}
zzzz zzzz zzzz zzzz.
\stopalignment
}
{
\setupspacing[broad]
\startalignment[right]
xxxx xxxx.
yyyy yyyy yyyy yyyy.
zzzz zzzz zzzz zzzz.
xxxx xxxx.
yyyy yyyy yyyy yyyy.\nospace{}
zzzz zzzz zzzz zzzz.
\stopalignment
}
\stoptext
In my mind, the first line should be the shortest (no
additional spacing).
The length of the second line must be longer (additional
spacing after the second sentence).
The length of the third line must be longer than that of the
second line (additional spacing between every sentence).
And the fourth line must be shorter than the third line
(same length as the first line).
If I run "texexec" over this, the last three line are longer
than the first line AND they have the same lengths.
What have I not understand -- or is it a known problem or a
bug?
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^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread* Re: Problem with "packed" and "\space" / "broad" and "/nospace"
2009-02-23 20:52 Problem with "packed" and "\space" / "broad" and "/nospace" Bernd Kosubek
@ 2009-02-23 20:56 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2009-02-23 21:35 ` Bernd Kosubek
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2009-02-23 20:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 23.02.2009 um 21:52 schrieb Bernd Kosubek:
> If I run "texexec" over this, the last three line are longer
> than the first line AND they have the same lengths.
>
> What have I not understand -- or is it a known problem or a
> bug?
You get what you write.
2. Sentence: \space{} = 2 spaces because of the {}
3. Sentence: Wide than the first sentence because of the disabled
frenchspacing
4. Sentence: You write \nospace but insert a space with {}
Wolfgang
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2009-02-23 20:56 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2009-02-23 21:35 ` Bernd Kosubek
2009-02-23 21:34 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Bernd Kosubek @ 2009-02-23 21:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am Montag, 23. Februar 2009 21:56 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
> Am 23.02.2009 um 21:52 schrieb Bernd Kosubek:
> > If I run "texexec" over this, the last three line are
> > longer than the first line AND they have the same
> > lengths.
> >
> > What have I not understand -- or is it a known problem
> > or a bug?
>
> You get what you write.
>
> 2. Sentence: \space{} = 2 spaces because of the {}
>
> 3. Sentence: Wide than the first sentence because of the
> disabled frenchspacing
>
> 4. Sentence: You write \nospace but insert a space with
> {}
>
> Wolfgang
Thank You for the quick answer.
I don't understand where the second space should be come
from.
I use the empty group "{}" always to separate optionless
commands.
I think it is the same whether I write:
xxxx. yyyy. or
xxxy.{} yyyy. or
xxxx.
yyyy. or
xxxx.{}
yyyy.
If I use
xxxx.\space yyyy or xxxx.\space{} yyyy
the first \space produce NO space (that is not what I wish)
I suppose, that the empty group has no effect.
The following space will be printed and THIS space should be
smaller in an broad-environment if I use \nospace or larger
in an packed-environment if I use \space.
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2009-02-23 21:35 ` Bernd Kosubek
@ 2009-02-23 21:34 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2009-02-23 22:01 ` Bernd Kosubek
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2009-02-23 21:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 23.02.2009 um 22:35 schrieb Bernd Kosubek:
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> Am Montag, 23. Februar 2009 21:56 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
>> Am 23.02.2009 um 21:52 schrieb Bernd Kosubek:
>>> If I run "texexec" over this, the last three line are
>>> longer than the first line AND they have the same
>>> lengths.
>>>
>>> What have I not understand -- or is it a known problem
>>> or a bug?
>>
>> You get what you write.
>>
>> 2. Sentence: \space{} = 2 spaces because of the {}
>>
>> 3. Sentence: Wide than the first sentence because of the
>> disabled frenchspacing
>>
>> 4. Sentence: You write \nospace but insert a space with
>> {}
>
> Thank You for the quick answer.
>
> I don't understand where the second space should be come
> from.
> I use the empty group "{}" always to separate optionless
> commands.
>
> I think it is the same whether I write:
>
> xxxx. yyyy. or
> xxxy.{} yyyy. or
> xxxx.
> yyyy. or
> xxxx.{}
> yyyy.
>
> If I use
>
> xxxx.\space yyyy or xxxx.\space{} yyyy
>
> the first \space produce NO space (that is not what I wish)
Nonsense, the first \space produce a space and the whitespace
in the input between \space and yyyy is gobbled from the macro.
The empty group after the second space prevents TeX from gobbling
the space and you get now one space from the \space command and
another one from the whitespace in the output.
> I suppose, that the empty group has no effect.
> The following space will be printed and THIS space should be
> smaller in an broad-environment if I use \nospace or larger
> in an packed-environment if I use \space.
You need a empty group to get a space after commands like \TeX
because the command gobbles otherwise all following whitespace.
Try the following example:
text\relax text\space text\space{}\space{}\space{}\space text
Wolfgang
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2009-02-23 21:34 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2009-02-23 22:01 ` Bernd Kosubek
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From: Bernd Kosubek @ 2009-02-23 22:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am Montag, 23. Februar 2009 22:34 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
>
> Nonsense, the first \space produce a space and the
> whitespace in the input between \space and yyyy is
> gobbled from the macro.
>
> The empty group after the second space prevents TeX from
> gobbling the space and you get now one space from the
> \space command and another one from the whitespace in the
> output.
>
> > I suppose, that the empty group has no effect.
> > The following space will be printed and THIS space
> > should be smaller in an broad-environment if I use
> > \nospace or larger in an packed-environment if I use
> > \space.
>
> You need a empty group to get a space after commands like
> \TeX because the command gobbles otherwise all following
> whitespace.
>
> Try the following example:
>
> text\relax text\space text\space{}\space{}\space{}\space
> text
>
> Wolfgang
Thank you!!!!
I think I understand it (I hope so)!
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