From: Marcin Borkowski <mbork@atos.wmid.amu.edu.pl>
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
Subject: Re: presentation module
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 08:01:47 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090430060147.GY30198@atos.labs.wmid.amu.edu.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <68bfdc900904291921o42c901a7rcc4006f9731380da@mail.gmail.com>
Dnia Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 10:21:30AM +0800, Yue Wang napisał(a):
> On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 12:56 AM, Aditya Mahajan <adityam@umich.edu> wrote:
> > On Thu, 30 Apr 2009, Yue Wang wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> you can find that on http://modules.contextgarden.net/
> >>
> >> but anyway, you won't know how easy it is to place figure/text
> >> wherever you want in Keynote.
> >> In ConTeXt, you cannot achieve that.
> >
> > Sure you can. Use a background layer, and then you can place the text
> > whereever you want. Not as easy as in Keynote or powerpoint, but it can be
> > done.
>
>
> achieve the "easiness" I mean.
> positioning/adjusting graphics/text using a mouse is much easier than
> do that with keyboard,
> and one should compile/adjust xs and ys many times in order to get the
> right result.
Well, using the keyboard and not the mouse is IMHO one of the TeX (and
LateX, and ConTeXt, and METAPOST, and METAFUN, and tikz) advantages: I
may have repeatable (and uniform throughout the document) results
without having to put a (physical) ruler onto my monitor;)...
My experience shows that the best way to prepare a complicated document,
and especially one containing complicated mathematics/graphics/tables,
is to:
1. think about it
2. sketch it on a piece of paper
3. think a bit more
4. write down the important coordinates etc.
5. type into the computer what I have done in part 4.
This way you don't really have to adjust it too many times (maybe twice
or thrice).
> not to say how to create beautiful 2d/3d charts and tables,
> make simple drawings,
metafun or tikz
> get fancy templates,
> apply some advanced features to graphics/texts (like mirror, or
> believable shade)
> Well, I know in theory everything above is doable using TeX,
> but extra amount of work should be done, and the ConTeXt approach
> (using metafun?) quite unproductive.
As I said: the bulk of the work when preparing a good document is
*thinking* (and writing the *text*). Even two or three hours of typing
don't really make a difference, especially if you get nicer results than
when using mouse (each picture etc. in slightly different position
and/or size...)
> So unless someone develop a good GUI frontend for TeX,
> using TeX for unstructured documents (like presentation slides) is
> always not a good idea.
This might be debatable, but I would risk a following statement: if you
consider your presentation slides "unstructured", maybe it's time to
devote more thinking to it...
But a GUI would be nice in fact, especially for tikz. I agree that
in some cases it would be faster to use it than to type everything.
Regards
--
Marcin Borkowski (http://mbork.pl)
- Why vim users don't use the ESC key?
- It's too far on the keyboard. It's faster to type ctrl-[.
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Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <mailman.501.1241019812.3589.ntg-context@ntg.nl>
2009-04-29 16:08 ` Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky
2009-04-29 16:44 ` Yue Wang
2009-04-29 16:56 ` Aditya Mahajan
2009-04-30 2:21 ` Yue Wang
2009-04-30 6:01 ` Marcin Borkowski [this message]
2009-04-30 9:21 ` Yue Wang
2009-04-30 9:30 ` Thomas A. Schmitz
2009-04-30 9:52 ` Yue Wang
2009-04-30 7:42 ` R. Bastian
2009-04-29 18:05 ` luigi scarso
2009-04-29 18:13 ` Aditya Mahajan
[not found] <mailman.492.1240993460.3589.ntg-context@ntg.nl>
2009-04-29 9:59 ` Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky
2009-04-29 10:26 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2009-04-29 11:19 ` Yue Wang
2009-04-29 11:32 ` luigi scarso
2009-04-29 12:56 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2009-04-29 13:05 ` Yue Wang
2007-07-22 12:46 Thomas A. Schmitz
2007-08-08 7:17 ` Saji Njarackalazhikam Hameed
2007-08-08 9:16 ` Thomas A. Schmitz
2007-08-08 10:48 ` Peter Münster
2007-08-08 10:57 ` Thomas A. Schmitz
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2007-07-16 9:35 Thomas A. Schmitz
2007-07-16 13:45 ` Saji Hameed
2007-07-16 13:49 ` Thomas A. Schmitz
2007-07-17 12:07 ` fdu.xiaojf
2007-07-21 9:10 ` olivier Turlier
2007-07-21 9:59 ` Thomas A. Schmitz
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