Change whitespace before item?

Change whitespace before item?

[U Avalos]

Say I want to change the whitespace before an item in an enumeration. 
The diagram below:

|.....(a)   Item 2
|.....(b)   item 2

Say I want to change the whitespace (represented by the dots) in a list? 
How can I do that? Tried various settings: changing margin, adding 
hskip, but nothing seems to do the trick. There doesn't seem to be 
anything in the docs...

How can I get a question answered on this list, BTW? It seems that no 
one either knows anything or are too busy for simple questions. FYI, 
devs, this language is going to die if you don't get more users....
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Re: Change whitespace before item?

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 11.08.2009 um 17:41 schrieb U Avalos:

> Say I want to change the whitespace before an item in an enumeration.
> The diagram below:
>
> |.....(a)   Item 2
> |.....(b)   item 2
>
> Say I want to change the whitespace (represented by the dots) in a  
> list?
> How can I do that? Tried various settings: changing margin, adding
> hskip, but nothing seems to do the trick. There doesn't seem to be
> anything in the docs...

\showframe

\starttext

\startitemize[a][stopper=,left=(,right=),margin=2cm]
\item Item 1
\item Item 2
\stopitemize

\stoptext

> How can I get a question answered on this list, BTW? It seems that no
> one either knows anything or are too busy for simple questions. FYI,
> devs, this language is going to die if you don't get more users....

You're really impolite for someone who wants help from others.

BTW: Your question was already questioned and answered in the past,
it would have been easy for you to get the answer when you tried
to search in the mail archive.

Wolfgang

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Re: Change whitespace before item?

[Stéphane Goujet]

Wolfgang Schuster a écrit :

> Am 11.08.2009 um 17:41 schrieb U Avalos:
>> How can I get a question answered on this list, BTW? It seems that no
>> one either knows anything or are too busy for simple questions. FYI,
>> devs, this language is going to die if you don't get more users....
> You're really impolite for someone who wants help from others.

  Polite or not, what he says is true. Simple questions from end-users
are barely answered while questions from developpers/people with
experience are generaly answered and generate rather long threads.
  I have tried posting questions once or twice and I never got a single
answer. The result is that, now, I do not post them here any more.

  The flow of development/"high level" messages (that I do not
understand) is important, too important for me to see and possibly try
to answer most end-users questions. Perhaps it would be time to split
this mailing-list in 2 parts, one really for users and the other for
developpers, beta testers, package programmers, etc.
  Of course, the drawback of doing this is that the gurus will not be
interested in following the users' list and will be kept busy with other
lists, so they will not be present to enlighten beginners.

Goodbye,
  Stéphane.


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Re: Change whitespace before item?

[Uriel Avalos]

That sounds like a good idea. From what you are telling me and my 
experience, it seems that the gurus are too busy anyway to help 
newbies...

On Tuesday 11 August 2009 13:13:02 Stéphane Goujet wrote:
> Wolfgang Schuster a écrit :
> > Am 11.08.2009 um 17:41 schrieb U Avalos:
> >> How can I get a question answered on this list, BTW? It seems 
that no
> >> one either knows anything or are too busy for simple 
questions. FYI,
> >> devs, this language is going to die if you don't get more 
users....
> >
> > You're really impolite for someone who wants help from others.
>
>   Polite or not, what he says is true. Simple questions from end-
users
> are barely answered while questions from developpers/people with
> experience are generaly answered and generate rather long 
threads.
>   I have tried posting questions once or twice and I never got a 
single
> answer. The result is that, now, I do not post them here any more.
>
>   The flow of development/"high level" messages (that I do not
> understand) is important, too important for me to see and 
possibly try
> to answer most end-users questions. Perhaps it would be time to 
split
> this mailing-list in 2 parts, one really for users and the other for
> developpers, beta testers, package programmers, etc.
>   Of course, the drawback of doing this is that the gurus will not be
> interested in following the users' list and will be kept busy with 
other
> lists, so they will not be present to enlighten beginners.
>
> Goodbye,
>   Stéphane.
>
>
> 
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Re: Change whitespace before item?

[Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد]

On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 11:13:02 -0600, Stéphane Goujet  
<stephane.goujet@wanadoo.fr> wrote:

> Simple questions from end-users
> are barely answered while questions from developpers/people with
> experience are generaly answered and generate rather long threads.

This is simply not true AFAICT. I've been around for years and my  
questions were not always answered immediately or on a first try. And I've  
seen newbies whose questions generated very long answers/threads.

If you don't get an immediate/timely answer, politely post a second or  
even third time if necessary. As I said earlier, there are no privileged  
users on this list.

Key: politeness and persistence :-)

Best wishes
Idris

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Re: Change whitespace before item?

[Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد]

On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 11:13:02 -0600, Stéphane Goujet  
<stephane.goujet@wanadoo.fr> wrote:

>   I have tried posting questions once or twice and I never got a single
> answer. The result is that, now, I do not post them here any more.

Just try again and don't take it personally. That's what I've done for  
years. As a last resort, write Hans, Taco or whoever is most relevant to  
your question directly and say, "I've posted this to the list a couple of  
times and have not goten an answer yet. Could you take a look?"

Key: politeness and persistence :-)

The developers are very busy, well, developing. Be patient with them.

>
>   The flow of development/"high level" messages (that I do not
> understand) is important, too important for me to see and possibly try
> to answer most end-users questions. Perhaps it would be time to split
> this mailing-list in 2 parts, one really for users and the other for
> developpers, beta testers, package programmers, etc.

That has already been done ;-) But understand that ConTeXt is a HUGE  
system, and hardly anyone understands it all.

>   Of course, the drawback of doing this is that the gurus will not be
> interested in following the users' list and will be kept busy with other
> lists, so they will not be present to enlighten beginners.

In my experience this is simply not the case. One could create at least  
one book out of, say, Wolfgang's answers to newbies and users in general  
[actually, that might not be such a bad idea].

Best wishes
Idris

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Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80523
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Re: Change whitespace before item?

[U Avalos]

You're right I should know better 

On Tuesday 11 August 2009 14:32:32 Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 11:13:02 -0600, Stéphane Goujet
>
> <stephane.goujet@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
> >   I have tried posting questions once or twice and I never got a single
> > answer. The result is that, now, I do not post them here any more.
>
> Just try again and don't take it personally. That's what I've done for
> years. As a last resort, write Hans, Taco or whoever is most relevant to
> your question directly and say, "I've posted this to the list a couple of
> times and have not goten an answer yet. Could you take a look?"
>
> Key: politeness and persistence :-)
>
> The developers are very busy, well, developing. Be patient with them.
>
> >   The flow of development/"high level" messages (that I do not
> > understand) is important, too important for me to see and possibly try
> > to answer most end-users questions. Perhaps it would be time to split
> > this mailing-list in 2 parts, one really for users and the other for
> > developpers, beta testers, package programmers, etc.
>
> That has already been done ;-) But understand that ConTeXt is a HUGE
> system, and hardly anyone understands it all.
>
> >   Of course, the drawback of doing this is that the gurus will not be
> > interested in following the users' list and will be kept busy with other
> > lists, so they will not be present to enlighten beginners.
>
> In my experience this is simply not the case. One could create at least
> one book out of, say, Wolfgang's answers to newbies and users in general
> [actually, that might not be such a bad idea].
>
> Best wishes
> Idris

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Re: Change whitespace before item?

[Thomas A. Schmitz]

On Aug 11, 2009, at 8:48 PM, U Avalos wrote:

> You're right I should know better

OK, since you're a brave man and can admit a mistake: here's an answer  
to your original question. I'm not sure if it's the best way to do  
this, but it allows you to finetune the whitespace and the distance  
after the itemization symbols:

\starttext

\startitemize[n]
\item top level
  \startitemize[A,intext][left={\hskip2em},width=4em]
  \item sub item 1
  \item sub item 2
  \stopitemize
\stopitemize

\stoptext

Thomas
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Re: Change whitespace before item?

[U Avalos]

It works! That also was Wolfgang's solution ... however, the "intext" was not 
necessary. Funny thing is I could have sworn I tried "left=\hskip" before... 

Thanx


On Tuesday 11 August 2009 14:55:44 Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
> On Aug 11, 2009, at 8:48 PM, U Avalos wrote:
> > You're right I should know better
>
> OK, since you're a brave man and can admit a mistake: here's an answer
> to your original question. I'm not sure if it's the best way to do
> this, but it allows you to finetune the whitespace and the distance
> after the itemization symbols:
>
> \starttext
>
> \startitemize[n]
> \item top level
>   \startitemize[A,intext][left={\hskip2em},width=4em]
>   \item sub item 1
>   \item sub item 2
>   \stopitemize
> \stopitemize
>
> \stoptext
>
> Thomas
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Re: Change whitespace before item?

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 11.08.2009 um 19:13 schrieb Stéphane Goujet:

> Perhaps it would be time to split
> this mailing-list in 2 parts, one really for users and the other for
> developpers, beta testers, package programmers, etc.

We already have two different lists: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_Mailing_Lists#Mailing_lists

Wolfgang

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Re: Change whitespace before item?

[Uriel Avalos]

Like I said, I tried "margin" and it does NOT work. "Margin" has no 
effect on sub-lists.

\startitemize[n]
\item top level
  \startitemize[a,margin=5cm]
  \item sub item 1
  \item sub item 2
  \stopitemize
\stopitemize

"margin" does NOT affect the sublist at all. 

Oh I apologize if you took the rant personally. (At least it got your 
attention!) However, I was trying to point out that with a plethora of 
other options (scribus, latex, etc) combined with a lack of help, will 
just send new users packing. Eventually, you'll just be left with 
veteran users.  

I'm really trying to make this work for me though -- it's just that the 
incomplete docs and lack of mailing list help is making this a very 
frustrating journey :(

On Tuesday 11 August 2009 12:42:35 Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> Am 11.08.2009 um 17:41 schrieb U Avalos:
> > Say I want to change the whitespace before an item in an 
enumeration.
> >
> > The diagram below:
> > |.....(a)   Item 2
> > |.....(b)   item 2
> >
> > Say I want to change the whitespace (represented by the dots) 
in a
> > list?
> > How can I do that? Tried various settings: changing margin, 
adding
> > hskip, but nothing seems to do the trick. There doesn't seem to 
be
> > anything in the docs...
>
> \showframe
>
> \starttext
>
> \startitemize[a][stopper=,left=(,right=),margin=2cm]
> \item Item 1
> \item Item 2
> \stopitemize
>
> \stoptext
>
> > How can I get a question answered on this list, BTW? It seems 
that no
> > one either knows anything or are too busy for simple questions. 
FYI,
> > devs, this language is going to die if you don't get more users....
>
> You're really impolite for someone who wants help from others.
>
> BTW: Your question was already questioned and answered in the 
past,
> it would have been easy for you to get the answer when you tried
> to search in the mail archive.
>
> Wolfgang
>
> 
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Re: Change whitespace before item?

[U Avalos]

Like I said, I tried "margin" and it does NOT work. "Margin" has no 
effect on sub-lists.

\startitemize[n]
\item top level
  \startitemize[a,margin=5cm]
  \item sub item 1
  \item sub item 2
  \stopitemize
\stopitemize

"margin" does NOT affect the sublist at all. 

Oh I apologize for the rant. (At least it got your attention!) However, I was 
just stating the obvious: a plethora of other options (scribus, latex, etc) 
combined with poor docs and a lack of help, will just send new users packing. 
Eventually, you'll just be left with veteran users. It happens all the time 
with open source projects...

I'm really trying to make this work for me though :)

On Tuesday 11 August 2009 12:42:35 Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> Am 11.08.2009 um 17:41 schrieb U Avalos:
> > Say I want to change the whitespace before an item in an enumeration.
> >
> > The diagram below:
> > |.....(a)   Item 2
> > |.....(b)   item 2
> >
> > Say I want to change the whitespace (represented by the dots) in a
> > list?
> > How can I do that? Tried various settings: changing margin, adding
> > hskip, but nothing seems to do the trick. There doesn't seem to be
> > anything in the docs...
>
> \showframe
>
> \starttext
>
> \startitemize[a][stopper=,left=(,right=),margin=2cm]
> \item Item 1
> \item Item 2
> \stopitemize
>
> \stoptext
>
> > How can I get a question answered on this list, BTW? It seems that no
> > one either knows anything or are too busy for simple questions. FYI,
> > devs, this language is going to die if you don't get more users....
>
> You're really impolite for someone who wants help from others.
>
> BTW: Your question was already questioned and answered in the past,
> it would have been easy for you to get the answer when you tried
> to search in the mail archive.
>
> Wolfgang
>
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Re: Change whitespace before item?

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 11.08.2009 um 20:29 schrieb U Avalos:

> Like I said, I tried "margin" and it does NOT work. "Margin" has no
> effect on sub-lists.

You *never* wrote anything about sublevels before, who do you expect
we should know what do you mean without enough information?

The value for 'margin' as added to the left margin for each level,
sub levels are controlled with the 'width' parameter. You can then
align the number/symbol/... with 'itemalign' or with  
'left=hskip<dimen>'.

\showframe

\starttext

\startitemize[n]
\item Item 1
\item Item 2
     \startitemize[a][left=\hskip1cm,width=2cm]
     \item Item 1
     \item Item 2
     \stopitemize
\stopitemize

\stoptext

Wolfgang

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Re: Change whitespace before item?

[Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد]

Wolfgang answered your main question, so that leaves

On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 09:41:26 -0600, U Avalos <amscopub-mail@yahoo.com>  
wrote:

> How can I get a question answered on this list, BTW?

Very simple: politely send the question a second time if you don't get a  
response. I've had to do that many times myself in the past, no one is  
priveleged here...

> It seems that no
> one either knows anything or are too busy for simple questions.

People are busy, and no one necessarily reads every single mail. It is a  
busy list after all. But see above.

> FYI, devs, this language is going to die if you don't get more users....

Who says we don't get more users?

Best wishes

-- 
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International Journal of Shi`i Studies
Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80523
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Re: Change whitespace before item?

[Taco Hoekwater]

Hi,

Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد wrote:
> 
>> It seems that no
>> one either knows anything or are too busy for simple questions.
> 
> People are busy, and no one necessarily reads every single mail. It is a
> busy list after all. But see above.

I just saw this thread while approving Uriel Avalos' earlier posts. I
used to answer newbie questions on the list, but currently I simply do
not have the time for that. In between preparing metapost and luatex
releases for texlive and organising and preparing my talks for the
upcoming context meeting, reinstalling the NTG server and on top of
that a big workload of commercial stuff with September deadlines I
simply do not have time respond to anything but personal questions.

I hope this situation will improve at the end of September.

Best wishes,
Taco
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Re: Change whitespace before item?

[Derek CORDEIRO]

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On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 9:11 PM, U Avalos <amscopub-mail@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Say I want to change the whitespace before an item in an enumeration.
> The diagram below:
>
> |.....(a)   Item 2
> |.....(b)   item 2
>
> Say I want to change the whitespace (represented by the dots) in a list?
> How can I do that? Tried various settings: changing margin, adding
> hskip, but nothing seems to do the trick. There doesn't seem to be
> anything in the docs...
>

Isn't it well documented in the wiki?
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Enumerations

How can I get a question answered on this list, BTW? It seems that no
> one either knows anything or are too busy for simple questions. FYI,
> devs, this language is going to die if you don't get more users....
>

Now who would guess that you would get replies by being rude? But it sounds
like you are doing the devs a favor by using ConTeXt. I think it has been
around long enough to not worry about its death. This is one of the best
lists I've subscribed to.

Regards,
Derek

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Re: Change whitespace before item?

[Uriel Avalos]

> Isn't it well documented in the wiki?
> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Enumerations

No, actually. The documentation says to use "margins" but that 
command does not seem to work for sub-lists. Unless my notation is 
wrong, it would seem that the margin values for a sub-list are 
hardcoded. 

For example, the following code does NOT work for me:

\startitemize[n]
\item top level
  \startitemize[a][margin=5cm]
  \item sub item 1
  \item sub item 2
  \stopitemize
\stopitemize

"Margin" has no effect on the sublist...

On Tuesday 11 August 2009 12:57:40 Derek CORDEIRO wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 9:11 PM, U Avalos <amscopub-
mail@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Say I want to change the whitespace before an item in an 
enumeration.
> >
> > The diagram below:
> > |.....(a)   Item 2
> > |.....(b)   item 2
> >
> > Say I want to change the whitespace (represented by the dots) 
in a list?
> > How can I do that? Tried various settings: changing margin, 
adding
> > hskip, but nothing seems to do the trick. There doesn't seem to 
be
> > anything in the docs...
>
> Isn't it well documented in the wiki?
> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Enumerations
>
> How can I get a question answered on this list, BTW? It seems that 
no
>
> > one either knows anything or are too busy for simple questions. 
FYI,
> > devs, this language is going to die if you don't get more users....
>
> Now who would guess that you would get replies by being rude? 
But it sounds
> like you are doing the devs a favor by using ConTeXt. I think it has 
been
> around long enough to not worry about its death. This is one of the 
best
> lists I've subscribed to.
>
> Regards,
> Derek

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Re: Change whitespace before item?

[U Avalos]

No, actually. The documentation says to use "margins" but that 
command does not seem to work for sub-lists. Unless my notation is 
wrong, it would seem that the margin values for a sub-list are 
hardcoded. 

For example, the following code does NOT work for me:

\startitemize[n]
\item top level
  \startitemize[a][margin=5cm]
  \item sub item 1
  \item sub item 2
  \stopitemize
\stopitemize

"Margin" has no effect on the sublist...

On Tuesday 11 August 2009 12:57:40 Derek CORDEIRO wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 9:11 PM, U Avalos <amscopub-mail@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Say I want to change the whitespace before an item in an enumeration.
> >
> > The diagram below:
> > |.....(a)   Item 2
> > |.....(b)   item 2
> >
> > Say I want to change the whitespace (represented by the dots) in a list?
> > How can I do that? Tried various settings: changing margin, adding
> > hskip, but nothing seems to do the trick. There doesn't seem to be
> > anything in the docs...
>
> Isn't it well documented in the wiki?
> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Enumerations
>
> How can I get a question answered on this list, BTW? It seems that no
>
> > one either knows anything or are too busy for simple questions. FYI,
> > devs, this language is going to die if you don't get more users....
>
> Now who would guess that you would get replies by being rude? But it sounds
> like you are doing the devs a favor by using ConTeXt. I think it has been
> around long enough to not worry about its death. This is one of the best
> lists I've subscribed to.
>
> Regards,
> Derek

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