Context-minimal installation problem.

Context-minimal installation problem.

[John Culleton]

Tried to install context minimals including the steps 
mktexlsr
texexec --make --all
No errors at this point.  But when I tried to run pdftex
I get the error message 
I can't find the format file `pdftex.fmt!'

That file is not anywhere in my personal directory. It is however in 
my bigger texlive 2008 installation.
The set command shows:
TEXMFCACHE=/home/safer/context/tex/texmf-cache
TEXMFOS=/home/safer/context/tex/texmf-linux
TEXROOT=/home/safer/context/tex
so that part is OK. 

Any hints? 

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Re: Context-minimal installation problem.

[luigi scarso]

On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 6:15 PM, John Culleton<john@wexfordpress.com> wrote:
> Tried to install context minimals including the steps
> mktexlsr
> texexec --make --all
> No errors at this point.  But when I tried to run pdftex
> I get the error message
> I can't find the format file `pdftex.fmt!'
Did you source setuptex ?

Under linux I do
. setuptext
in tex dir

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Re: Context-minimal installation problem.

[Hans van der Meer]

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This is the install script I am using. It might be a starting point  
for you:
#!/bin/bash
CONTEXTVERSION="beta"
CONTEXTDIRECTORY=$HOME/TeX/context/$CONTEXTVERSION
rm -R $CONTEXTDIRECTORY
mkdir -p $CONTEXTDIRECTORY/tex
cd $CONTEXTDIRECTORY
ln -s $HOME/Library/texmf tex/texmf-local
#cp -R $HOME/Library/texmf/* tex/texmf-local
curl -o first-setup.sh http://minimals.contextgarden.net/setup/first-setup.sh
sh ./first-setup.sh >first-setup.log
cd tex
echo "installation context $CONTEXTVERSION minimals done"

Hans van der Meer




On 18 aug 2009, at 18:55, luigi scarso wrote:

> On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 6:15 PM, John  
> Culleton<john@wexfordpress.com> wrote:
>> Tried to install context minimals including the steps
>> mktexlsr
>> texexec --make --all
>> No errors at this point.  But when I tried to run pdftex
>> I get the error message
>> I can't find the format file `pdftex.fmt!'
> Did you source setuptex ?
>
> Under linux I do
> . setuptext
> in tex dir
>
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Re: Context-minimal installation problem.

[John Culleton]

On Tuesday 18 August 2009 12:55:02 pm luigi scarso wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 6:15 PM, John 
Culleton<john@wexfordpress.com> wrote:
> > Tried to install context minimals including the steps
> > mktexlsr
> > texexec --make --all
> > No errors at this point.  But when I tried to run pdftex
> > I get the error message
> > I can't find the format file `pdftex.fmt!'
>
> Did you source setuptex ?
>
> Under linux I do
> . setuptext
> in tex dir

I set up the folloiwng in my .bashrc:
 source /home/safer/context/tex/setuptex

---which gave me the "set" values quoted before:
TEXMFCACHE=/home/safer/context/tex/texmf-cache
TEXMFOS=/home/safer/context/tex/texmf-linux
TEXROOT=/home/safer/context/tex


 Without that line I just default to my texlive installation.  There 
is no pdftex.fmt file in my context-minimal install, anywhere.


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Re: Context-minimal installation problem.

[Thomas A. Schmitz]

On Aug 18, 2009, at 6:15 PM, John Culleton wrote:

> Tried to install context minimals including the steps
> mktexlsr
> texexec --make --all
> No errors at this point.  But when I tried to run pdftex
> I get the error message
> I can't find the format file `pdftex.fmt!'
>
> That file is not anywhere in my personal directory. It is however in
> my bigger texlive 2008 installation.
> The set command shows:
> TEXMFCACHE=/home/safer/context/tex/texmf-cache
> TEXMFOS=/home/safer/context/tex/texmf-linux
> TEXROOT=/home/safer/context/tex
> so that part is OK.
>
> Any hints?

You are using ConTeXt minimals. You are using texexec to generate the  
ConTeXt formats (cont-en.fmt etc.). Why would you expect a format file  
for pure pdftex to be produced?

Thomas
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Re: Context-minimal installation problem.

[luigi scarso]

>
> You are using ConTeXt minimals. You are using texexec to generate the
> ConTeXt formats (cont-en.fmt etc.). Why would you expect a format file for
> pure pdftex to be produced?
puff ... true .
I was confused with plain.fmt  ....

I'm getting older, nothing to say.

John, pdftex.fmt is a matter of something like
$> pdftex -ini <path_to_pdftex.tex> \\dump

You need a pdftex.tex , and there is not a pdftex.tex in minimals .

BTW why do you need pdftex if you have texexec ?
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Re: Context-minimal installation problem.

[John Culleton]

On Tuesday 18 August 2009 01:48:09 pm Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
> On Aug 18, 2009, at 6:15 PM, John Culleton wrote:
> > Tried to install context minimals including the steps
> > mktexlsr
> > texexec --make --all
> > No errors at this point.  But when I tried to run pdftex
> > I get the error message
> > I can't find the format file `pdftex.fmt!'
> >
> > That file is not anywhere in my personal directory. It is
> > however in my bigger texlive 2008 installation.
> > The set command shows:
> > TEXMFCACHE=/home/safer/context/tex/texmf-cache
> > TEXMFOS=/home/safer/context/tex/texmf-linux
> > TEXROOT=/home/safer/context/tex
> > so that part is OK.
> >
> > Any hints?
>
> You are using ConTeXt minimals. You are using texexec to generate
> the ConTeXt formats (cont-en.fmt etc.). Why would you expect a
> format file for pure pdftex to be produced?
>
> Thomas
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OK, so I can't use Context-minimals and still use pdftex.  I 
discovered years ago that many plain pdftex files would work with 
texexec because Context is really an elaborate set of macros 
depending on pdftex.  I'll try texexec on my pdftex oriented file 
and see if it works.  I do most of my work in plain pdftex.  

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Re: Context-minimal installation problem.

[Thomas A. Schmitz]

On Aug 18, 2009, at 8:04 PM, John Culleton wrote:

> OK, so I can't use Context-minimals and still use pdftex.  I
> discovered years ago that many plain pdftex files would work with
> texexec because Context is really an elaborate set of macros
> depending on pdftex.  I'll try texexec on my pdftex oriented file
> and see if it works.  I do most of my work in plain pdftex.

I don't know enough about plain (pdf)TeX to be of much help, but just  
a few thoughts:

1. luatex does in fact produce a format file plain.fmt, and since  
luatex should be pretty compatible, this may be a start.

2. There is absolutely no problem in having TeXLive and the ConTeXT  
minimals installed side-by-side; I have it on all my computers, both  
OS X and linux. I have two files with setup commands which I source  
for using either system, and then I can have two terminal tabs/windows  
open and use  one or the other.

3. It should be easy to produce pdftex.fmt in the minimals; it just  
lacks a tool such as fmtutil. But you could try and copy over etex.ini  
for your texlive-installation and then run pdftex on it.

HTH

Thomas
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Re: Context-minimal installation problem.

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 20:11, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
>
> 3. It should be easy to produce pdftex.fmt in the minimals; it just lacks a
> tool such as fmtutil. But you could try and copy over etex.ini for your
> texlive-installation and then run pdftex on it.

Oh ... I forgot about etex. Whenever I use plan I use it for extremely
simple things. But adding etex should be no big deal. I can do it, it
would only be nice to convince texexec (or context, I don't care) to
generate plain pdftex format with the proper name.

Mojca
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Re: Context-minimal installation problem.

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 20:04, John Culleton wrote:
> On Tuesday 18 August 2009 01:48:09 pm Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
>
>> You are using ConTeXt minimals. You are using texexec to generate
>> the ConTeXt formats (cont-en.fmt etc.). Why would you expect a
>> format file for pure pdftex to be produced?
>
> OK, so I can't use Context-minimals and still use pdftex.  I
> discovered years ago that many plain pdftex files would work with
> texexec because Context is really an elaborate set of macros
> depending on pdftex.  I'll try texexec on my pdftex oriented file
> and see if it works.  I do most of my work in plain pdftex.

pdftex should work just fine, but the format is not generated by default.

You can use
    texexec --make plain
but then you need to convince Hans to rename the format from plain.fmt
to pdftex.fmt (or you need to rename it yourself), but unless you use
some obscure packages (or fonts) then pdftex should work just fine.
Maybe we would need to add some font map entries, but add you requests
if you need them.

Mojca
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Re: Context-minimal installation problem.

[John Culleton]

On Tuesday 18 August 2009 03:02:20 pm Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 20:04, John Culleton wrote:
> > On Tuesday 18 August 2009 01:48:09 pm Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
> >> You are using ConTeXt minimals. You are using texexec to
> >> generate the ConTeXt formats (cont-en.fmt etc.). Why would you
> >> expect a format file for pure pdftex to be produced?
> >
> > OK, so I can't use Context-minimals and still use pdftex.  I
> > discovered years ago that many plain pdftex files would work
> > with texexec because Context is really an elaborate set of
> > macros depending on pdftex.  I'll try texexec on my pdftex
> > oriented file and see if it works.  I do most of my work in
> > plain pdftex.
>
> pdftex should work just fine, but the format is not generated by
> default.
>
> You can use
>     texexec --make plain
> but then you need to convince Hans to rename the format from
> plain.fmt to pdftex.fmt (or you need to rename it yourself), but
> unless you use some obscure packages (or fonts) then pdftex
> should work just fine. Maybe we would need to add some font map
> entries, but add you requests if you need them.
>
> Mojca

OK that works so far.  Thanks!

The reason I don't just use texexec for everything is that Iike to 
use eplain.tex and there is an obscure name conflict somewhere 
between eplain.tex and context.  Also I find font handling easier 
in pdftex. Just a single statement is needed.  
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Re: Context-minimal installation problem.

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 18.08.2009 um 21:29 schrieb John Culleton:

> Also I find font handling easier in pdftex. Just a single statement  
> is needed.

Can you a bit more specific what do you mean with this sentence.

Wolfgang

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Re: Context-minimal installation problem.

[John Culleton]

On Tuesday 18 August 2009 03:30:36 pm Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> Am 18.08.2009 um 21:29 schrieb John Culleton:
> > Also I find font handling easier in pdftex. Just a single
> > statement is needed.
>
> Can you a bit more specific what do you mean with this sentence.
>
> Wolfgang
>

Well if I want bitstream charter roman at 11.2pts I can say
\font\rm bchr8r at 11.2pt
and I am done. 

Or I can define something called \fontsize and make it the referent 
for all my font statements:
\newdimen\fontsize
\fontsize=11.2pt
\baselineskip= 1.1\fontsize
\font\rm bchr8r at \fontsize
\font\bo bchbo8t at 1.1\fontsize
...and so on.  If I need the book a little longer I just change 
\fontsize. I have even done tricks like this:
\fontfam=bch
\font\rm \fontfam r8r at \fontsize

Introducing a new font into TeX is never simple but I find it easier 
if I  don't have to construct (and debug) an elaborate chain of 
font synonyms. 

It may be the luatex has made life simpler (or at least more 
exciting!)  I will examine that prospect next. But right now I am 
typesetting novels, memoirs and the like.  The fewer variables I 
have to contend with the better. 

YMMV of course. 

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Re: Context-minimal installation problem.

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 18.08.2009 um 22:09 schrieb John Culleton:

>>> Also I find font handling easier in pdftex. Just a single
>>> statement is needed.
>>
>> Can you a bit more specific what do you mean with this sentence.
>
> Well if I want bitstream charter roman at 11.2pts I can say
> \font\rm bchr8r at 11.2pt
> and I am done.
>
> Or I can define something called \fontsize and make it the referent
> for all my font statements:
> \newdimen\fontsize
> \fontsize=11.2pt
> \baselineskip= 1.1\fontsize
> \font\rm bchr8r at \fontsize
> \font\bo bchbo8t at 1.1\fontsize
> ...and so on.  If I need the book a little longer I just change
> \fontsize. I have even done tricks like this:
> \fontfam=bch
> \font\rm \fontfam r8r at \fontsize
>
> Introducing a new font into TeX is never simple but I find it easier
> if I  don't have to construct (and debug) an elaborate chain of
> font synonyms.

Use XeTeX or LuaTeX and you have no problem to use the font you like.

> It may be the luatex has made life simpler (or at least more
> exciting!)  I will examine that prospect next. But right now I am
> typesetting novels, memoirs and the like.  The fewer variables I
> have to contend with the better.

In MkIV you can write the above as:

\usemodule[simplefonts][size=11.2pt]

\setmainfont[CharterBT]

and when you want to make a global change of the font size you can do  
this with

\setupsimplefonts[size=xxpt]

Wolfgang

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