Is there a way (MkIV) to set math to use upright symbols globally, for Latin and Greek (I'm working on an OpenType math font that has no italics). Another slightly related issue, is it possible to get some visual indication of missing glyphs, something like using .notdef char instead of just leaving it blank. Regards, Khaled -- Khaled Hosny Arabic localiser and member of Arabeyes.org team Free font developer