From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/53009 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Barry Schwartz Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Small caps problem/bug with some fonts Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:19:08 -0500 Message-ID: <20090918201908.GA29031@crud.chemoelectric.org> References: <86d68cc30909180557x19dea6b8o8a2562f125a85275@mail.gmail.com> <4AB387A0.2000300@wxs.nl> <20090918181528.GA28412@crud.chemoelectric.org> <4AB3D4A8.1020809@wxs.nl> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1253305196 14357 80.91.229.12 (18 Sep 2009 20:19:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 20:19:56 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Fri Sep 18 22:19:48 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Mojvg-0006fd-2i for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 22:19:40 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA947C9AE3; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 22:19:36 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 1m8Z4nOI9x7u; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 22:19:32 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FCA2C9AAF; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 22:19:32 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D79EC9AAF for ; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 22:19:30 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id HfH0Nl9R--wH for ; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 22:19:15 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from QMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.48]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AF39C9A9C for ; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 22:19:14 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from OMTA02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.19]) by QMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id iFgZ1c0050QkzPwA5LKEkr; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 20:19:14 +0000 Original-Received: from crud.chemoelectric.org ([66.41.30.59]) by OMTA02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id iLKB1c00X1GXozm8NLKCRG; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 20:19:14 +0000 Original-Received: from crud.chemoelectric.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by crud.chemoelectric.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n8IKJ9Xj029278 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:19:09 -0500 Original-Received: (from trashman@localhost) by crud.chemoelectric.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n8IKJ8kb029276 for ntg-context@ntg.nl; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:19:08 -0500 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4AB3D4A8.1020809@wxs.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:53009 Archived-At: Hans Hagen skribis: > Barry Schwartz wrote: > > Hans Hagen skribis: > >> could it be a bug in the font? i.e. a Th ligature showing up in > >> smallcaps? if so, then simplefonts should disable ligatures in smallcaps > > > > I'm looking at AGaramondPro-Regular in fontforge and it has the lookup > > for small caps well above the lookup for ligatures. The software must > > be reading the lookup table out of order. ^^^^^^^^^^^^ I should have said "lookup list table". > > no, it's just that basemode gets two features and replacement and > ligatures are both applied due to the definition of the smallcaps > featureset, so it's expected behaviour The font is unambiguous about it, though. Are you sure the software isn't performing the feature list in order rather than lookup list? Or is the software performing substitutions in its own ad hoc order? Now I _make_ opentype fonts with small caps and ligatures and so want the software to do what I tell it (except when it was I who made the error). :) ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________