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From: Alan BRASLAU <alan.braslau@cea.fr>
To: ntg-context@ntg.nl
Cc: Mojca Miklavec <mojca.miklavec.lists@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: using `` '' the output is wrong.
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 21:10:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201001192110.52273.alan.braslau@cea.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6faad9f01001191131l7a924bf6wf98998c6c13af0a8@mail.gmail.com>

On Tuesday 19 January 2010 20:31:22 Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> Let me be a bit more "nationalistic" and exaggerate a bit for a moment
> (just in order to explain why I find the idea of using `` a bad one;
> do not take the text below too seriously or personally):

I think that the easiest would be for everyone to use English :)
That's my bit for Imperialism!

As I write in a mixture of languages, I like to use \quotation{}.
But long-time TeX users have habits that die hard,
and just as we expect fl to yield fl, we also learn many "bad" tricks
such as ``'' and ...

> - The deciding moment when some of these ugly tricks have been thrown
> away was when we realized that if you do add those tricks, there is no
> way to print the grave accent.

How about {\`} (untested)

You probably are right to favor \quotation{}, \dots, etc.
and to go unicode. But is it really necessary and a good idea
to break with TeX culture? I guess so. What about $ $ (and $$ $$)?
How about % (\%)? Not to mention &

> I have no idea which keyboard you use, but US International is pretty
> rich (the problem is lack of some legend on keyboard itself), on the
> other hand it's easy enough to make your own layout.

My own computers are US International. However, I often use other
computers having different layouts, many of which I cannot change.
The worst I find are the Macs with French keyboards, as when I use them,
I always have to remember how to find \ and {}

The bottom line is that we need to document these differences
towards the very beginning of the manual, where ConTeXt is
identified as a form of TeX.

Alan
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-01-19 20:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-01-18 12:34 views63
2010-01-18 12:50 ` Taco Hoekwater
2010-01-18 13:11   ` views63
2010-01-18 13:15   ` Alan BRASLAU
2010-01-18 13:47     ` Henning Hraban Ramm
2010-01-18 13:53     ` Hans Hagen
2010-01-19 19:31     ` Mojca Miklavec
2010-01-19 20:04       ` Aditya Mahajan
2010-01-19 20:10       ` Alan BRASLAU [this message]
2010-01-19 20:23         ` Wolfgang Schuster
2010-01-19 20:26           ` Aditya Mahajan
2010-01-19 20:34             ` Wolfgang Schuster
2010-01-19 20:44               ` Aditya Mahajan
2010-02-03 13:56             ` Wolfgang Schuster
2010-01-19 20:28         ` Aditya Mahajan
2010-01-19 21:01         ` Hans Hagen
2010-01-19 21:02         ` Mojca Miklavec
2010-01-20  7:04           ` Taco Hoekwater
2010-01-20  7:28             ` Alan BRASLAU
2010-01-20  7:52               ` Peter Münster
2010-01-20  9:10               ` Hans Hagen
2010-01-20  9:58                 ` Alan BRASLAU
2010-01-20 10:39                   ` Taco Hoekwater
2010-01-20 14:42                   ` Mojca Miklavec
2010-03-04 18:41                     ` Khaled Hosny
2010-03-04 18:31                 ` Khaled Hosny
2010-01-20  9:03             ` Hans Hagen
2010-01-19 22:08         ` Peter Münster
2010-03-04 18:19       ` Khaled Hosny

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