From: Marcin Borkowski <mbork@atos.wmid.amu.edu.pl>
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
Subject: Re: The ConTeXt book
Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 21:35:19 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100403193519.GH21212@atos.labs.wmid.amu.edu.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <x2r54d7f5601004030651pda0f88a3ne6fc5a84208fe57d@mail.gmail.com>
Dnia Sat, Apr 03, 2010 at 08:51:03AM -0500, Michael Saunders napisał(a):
> Because I think it might be possible to produce better output with
> Context than with LaTeX (is this true?). My experience has been quite
> different from yours. I got up an running with LaTeX in a week (in
> 1995), found the documentation clear and almost any effect I wanted
> easy to achieve with well-documented packages that never seriously
> conflicted. This, on the other hand, is a nightmare.
Yep. But when you actually run into one of these problems in LaTeX, you
are often more or less left alone - unlike ConTeXt and this list.
A few examples: tikz (for some obscure reason) breaks some functionality
of empheq; align in intertext in align (yes, I needed something like
this!) in AMS-LaTeX doesn't work; hacking the (otherwise excellent)
amsrefs package (or any AMS-LaTeX package, for that matter) is a real
pain, but sometimes you just need it (for example, amsthm may be a
standard, but it just sucks in quite a few respects!).
============
My general thought on this discussion: someone said "why don't people
switch from LaTeX to ConTeXt if ConTeXt is better?". The answer is
obvious to me. First: 99% maths journals accept LaTeX, \epsilon of them
(if any) accept ConTeXt. Second: people still use their LaTeX 2.09
preambles from the nineties, and spending even 30 minutes on learning a
new package (or just not using $$ ... $$ but \[ ... \] or anything)
seems impossible for them. Third: sadly, nearly anyone just does not
care whether the results are beautiful or ugly; people (I'm talking
about mathematicians now) use (La|AMS|Con)TeX(t) not because it is
better than (word|OO), but because that is what journals want.
Personally, I use both LaTeX and ConTeXt: LaTeX when I need something
done quickly or when I want to share some code with others (who usually
use LaTeX), and ConTeXt when I have some time and want to learn
something new (or when I have a ready template which *just works(TM)*.)
Cheers
--
Marcin Borkowski (http://mbork.pl)
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Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-04-03 13:51 Michael Saunders
2010-04-03 14:29 ` Peter Münster
2010-04-03 14:37 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2010-04-03 19:35 ` Marcin Borkowski [this message]
2010-04-03 23:32 ` Excursion PDf w/o controls on the page Russell Urquhart
2010-04-03 23:43 ` Aditya Mahajan
2010-04-04 0:04 ` Russell Urquhart
2010-04-04 0:24 ` Aditya Mahajan
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2010-04-03 23:20 The ConTeXt book Michael Saunders
2010-04-04 0:39 ` Aditya Mahajan
2010-04-04 7:33 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2010-04-03 12:14 Michael Saunders
2010-04-03 12:16 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2010-04-03 9:23 Michael Saunders
2010-04-03 9:41 ` Patrick Gundlach
2010-04-03 12:38 ` Peter Münster
2010-04-03 10:54 ` Andreas Schneider
2010-04-03 12:13 ` Gour
2010-04-03 12:45 ` Alain Delmotte
2010-04-03 12:56 ` Gour
2010-04-03 14:03 ` Alain Delmotte
2010-04-03 19:27 ` Gour
2010-04-03 19:48 ` Alain Delmotte
2010-04-03 16:00 ` Hans Hagen
2010-04-03 12:24 ` Hans Hagen
2010-04-03 11:20 ` Taco Hoekwater
2010-04-03 11:45 ` Taco Hoekwater
2010-04-03 12:09 ` Vedran Miletić
2010-04-03 12:55 ` Graham Douglas
2010-04-03 12:35 ` Peter Münster
2010-04-03 12:41 ` Hans Hagen
2010-04-03 12:55 ` Andrea Valle
2010-04-01 17:08 Arthur Reutenauer
2010-04-01 17:25 ` Martin Schröder
2010-04-01 17:29 ` Michail Vidiassov
2010-04-01 17:35 ` luigi scarso
2010-04-02 9:49 ` Arthur Reutenauer
2010-04-02 9:57 ` luigi scarso
2010-04-02 10:08 ` Hans Hagen
2010-04-02 11:18 ` John Haltiwanger
2010-04-02 11:40 ` Hans Hagen
2010-04-02 12:20 ` John Haltiwanger
2010-04-02 12:25 ` Taco Hoekwater
2010-04-02 12:39 ` Patrick Gundlach
2010-04-02 22:32 ` Russell Urquhart
2010-04-03 5:37 ` Gour
2010-04-03 6:47 ` Alan BRASLAU
2010-04-03 7:47 ` Mojca Miklavec
2010-04-03 11:32 ` Gour
2010-04-03 6:54 ` Taco Hoekwater
2010-04-03 11:42 ` Gour
2010-04-03 8:51 ` Hans Hagen
2010-04-03 11:48 ` Gour
2010-04-03 12:30 ` Hans Hagen
2010-04-03 8:59 ` Martin Schröder
2010-04-03 9:15 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2010-04-03 9:20 ` luigi scarso
2010-04-03 12:03 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2010-04-03 13:01 ` luigi scarso
2010-04-03 13:09 ` Taco Hoekwater
2010-04-03 13:31 ` luigi scarso
2010-04-03 13:36 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2010-04-03 13:42 ` luigi scarso
2010-04-03 13:49 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2010-04-03 13:53 ` luigi scarso
2010-04-03 13:56 ` luigi scarso
2010-04-03 14:14 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2010-04-03 14:02 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2010-04-03 14:16 ` luigi scarso
2010-04-03 14:42 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2010-04-03 16:11 ` Hans Hagen
2010-04-03 16:09 ` Hans Hagen
2010-04-03 9:47 ` Vedran Miletić
2010-04-03 12:07 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2010-04-02 14:12 ` Hans Hagen
2010-04-02 14:16 ` Matthias Weber
2010-04-01 17:32 ` luigi scarso
2010-04-01 17:40 ` Sebastien Mengin
2010-04-01 17:43 ` Hans Hagen
2010-04-01 19:38 ` Alan BRASLAU
2010-04-01 19:58 ` Hans Hagen
2010-04-01 18:45 ` Graham Douglas
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