From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/57771 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Marcin Borkowski Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Typographical Engineering in Context Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 21:50:09 +0200 Message-ID: <20100403195009.GI21212@atos.labs.wmid.amu.edu.pl> References: Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1270324225 14366 80.91.229.12 (3 Apr 2010 19:50:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 19:50:25 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Sat Apr 03 21:50:21 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ny9MG-0006hC-BO for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Sat, 03 Apr 2010 21:50:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B630C9EF2; Sat, 3 Apr 2010 21:50:16 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id QK+zrl+Q2ssQ; Sat, 3 Apr 2010 21:50:13 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55279C9EC9; Sat, 3 Apr 2010 21:50:13 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 650EBC9EC9 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 2010 21:50:12 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id Vnob+AnOwUFb for ; Sat, 3 Apr 2010 21:50:10 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from atos.wmid.amu.edu.pl (atos.wmid.amu.edu.pl [150.254.78.2]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CFB4C9D74 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 2010 21:50:10 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by atos.wmid.amu.edu.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id F365C10139EB for ; Sat, 3 Apr 2010 21:50:09 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new (PLD-Linux) at wmid.amu.edu.pl Original-Received: from atos.wmid.amu.edu.pl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (atos.wmid.amu.edu.pl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10023) with ESMTP id A2WbwDbVEfHs for ; Sat, 3 Apr 2010 21:50:09 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by atos.wmid.amu.edu.pl (Postfix, from userid 3884) id AFC8910139E3; Sat, 3 Apr 2010 21:50:09 +0200 (CEST) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:57771 Archived-At: Dnia Sat, Apr 03, 2010 at 02:58:37PM +0000, John Haltiwanger napisał(a): > > As this is precisely my situation, perhaps I can offer you the benefit > > of a test-able target audience? Today I am already looking into the > > best route to learning TeX/mkiv in a holistic (ie not just looking for > > the 'recipe' I need to meet a given deadline). I have just entered > > full-time thesis mode, so the question begins Should I just sit down > > and read the TeXBook? (something that will be done regardless, it's > > just a question as what is most worthwhile to Getting Something Done > > Right Now) or would it be that the LuaTeX manual is more directly > > applicable? Or, perhaps, a chapter from your book? ;) > > Sorry to reply to myself, but the send button got pressed a bit early. > The point is, I want to approach TeX/mkiv in a holistic way. I don't > necessarily want to be mired in TeX constraints when it seems LuaTeX > will be a) easier b) more relevant c) more powerful. However, I can > imagine that knowing the former is important to understanding/learning > the latter. My 3 cents: if you want to have your thesis done *quickly* and in an easy, "howto - recipe - faq" way, just use LaTeX (probably with amsrefs/tikz/memoir/a few others). If you want to do more unusual things, and have some spare time to play with them and ask a lot of questions here - use ConTeXt. (Some time ago, on the blog of the Malaysian LaTeX User Group (http://latex-my.blogspot.com/) there was a nice example of having a colourful, good-looking book done in LaTeX, btw, so it's also possible, of course; but LaTeX was *not* designed with such things in mind.) And please, *do* read the TeXbook - it's sooooo much fun! > Anyway, at the moment I'm content to read Taco's new typography > chapter and add a few notes :) Now I'm just feeling obliged to do the same. I'll print them out and read on the bus/tramway (or is it called a "cable car"?) Regards -- Marcin Borkowski (http://mbork.pl) ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________