* weird en/em dash behaviour
@ 2010-04-04 18:49 Marco
2010-04-04 19:04 ` Aditya Mahajan
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From: Marco @ 2010-04-04 18:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi,
I've found some in my opinion weird behaviour concerning en/em dashes.
Have a look at the following two MWEs.
%%%%%%%%%%
\starttext
- % shows up
-- % missing
--- % missing
\endash % missing
\emdash % missing
\stoptext
%%%%%%%%%%
%%%%%%%%%%
\setupbodyfont
[11.9pt]
\starttext
- % shows up
-- % shows up
--- % shows up
\endash % shows up
\emdash % shows up
\stoptext
%%%%%%%%%%
Is this expected behaviour?
marco
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* Re: weird en/em dash behaviour
2010-04-04 18:49 weird en/em dash behaviour Marco
@ 2010-04-04 19:04 ` Aditya Mahajan
2010-04-04 19:07 ` Marco
2010-04-04 19:10 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Aditya Mahajan @ 2010-04-04 19:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Sun, 4 Apr 2010, Marco wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've found some in my opinion weird behaviour concerning en/em dashes.
> Have a look at the following two MWEs.
>
> %%%%%%%%%%
> \starttext
> - % shows up
> -- % missing
> --- % missing
> \endash % missing
> \emdash % missing
> \stoptext
> %%%%%%%%%%
Works here with both MkII and MkIV. But I am using an old version
(2010.03.20). Maybe a bug was introduced later?
Aditya
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* Re: weird en/em dash behaviour
2010-04-04 19:04 ` Aditya Mahajan
@ 2010-04-04 19:07 ` Marco
2010-04-04 19:19 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2010-04-04 19:10 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Marco @ 2010-04-04 19:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
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My version:
ConTeXt ver: 2010.03.30 18:56 MKIV
This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.52.0-2010032402 (rev 3515)
marco
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* Re: weird en/em dash behaviour
2010-04-04 19:07 ` Marco
@ 2010-04-04 19:19 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2010-04-04 19:17 ` Marco
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2010-04-04 19:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 04.04.10 21:07, schrieb Marco:
> My version:
> ConTeXt ver: 2010.03.30 18:56 MKIV
> This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.52.0-2010032402 (rev 3515)
>
MTXrun | current version: 2010.03.30 18:56
This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.52.0-2010031913
Mac OS X 10.6.3
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* Re: weird en/em dash behaviour
2010-04-04 19:19 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2010-04-04 19:17 ` Marco
2010-04-04 20:56 ` luigi scarso
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From: Marco @ 2010-04-04 19:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
Am Sun, 04 Apr 2010 21:19:49 +0200
schrieb Wolfgang Schuster <schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com>:
> Am 04.04.10 21:07, schrieb Marco:
> > My version:
> > ConTeXt ver: 2010.03.30 18:56 MKIV
> > This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.52.0-2010032402 (rev 3515)
> >
> MTXrun | current version: 2010.03.30 18:56
> This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.52.0-2010031913
> Mac OS X 10.6.3
>
> Wolfgang
OK. The version are the same. I use linux but that should not cause the
problem. Maybe something wrong with the fonts? I also have TeXLive
installed.
marco
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* Re: weird en/em dash behaviour
2010-04-04 19:17 ` Marco
@ 2010-04-04 20:56 ` luigi scarso
2010-04-04 22:52 ` Marco
2010-04-05 6:49 ` Taco Hoekwater
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From: luigi scarso @ 2010-04-04 20:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 9:17 PM, Marco <netuse@lavabit.com> wrote:
> Am Sun, 04 Apr 2010 21:19:49 +0200
> schrieb Wolfgang Schuster <schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com>:
>
>> Am 04.04.10 21:07, schrieb Marco:
>> > My version:
>> > ConTeXt ver: 2010.03.30 18:56 MKIV
>> > This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.52.0-2010032402 (rev 3515)
>> >
>> MTXrun | current version: 2010.03.30 18:56
>> This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.52.0-2010031913
>> Mac OS X 10.6.3
>>
>> Wolfgang
>
> OK. The version are the same. I use linux but that should not cause the
> problem. Maybe something wrong with the fonts? I also have TeXLive
> installed.
same bug here on linux x86
# context --version
MTXrun | current version: 2010.03.30 18:56
# luatex --credits
This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.60.0-2010040410 (rev 3588)
> marco
>
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* Re: weird en/em dash behaviour
2010-04-04 20:56 ` luigi scarso
@ 2010-04-04 22:52 ` Marco
2010-04-05 6:49 ` Taco Hoekwater
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From: Marco @ 2010-04-04 22:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
Am Sun, 4 Apr 2010 22:56:26 +0200
schrieb luigi scarso <luigi.scarso@gmail.com>:
> > OK. The version are the same. I use linux but that should not cause
> > the problem. Maybe something wrong with the fonts? I also have
> > TeXLive installed.
> same bug here on linux x86
>
> # context --version
> MTXrun | current version: 2010.03.30 18:56
>
> # luatex --credits
> This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.60.0-2010040410 (rev 3588)
OK. Then I'm not the only one with this problem. Maybe a platform issue. Or
the same misconfiguration as in my case. Don't know. I'm stuck.
marco
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* Re: weird en/em dash behaviour
2010-04-04 20:56 ` luigi scarso
2010-04-04 22:52 ` Marco
@ 2010-04-05 6:49 ` Taco Hoekwater
2010-05-10 16:29 ` Marco
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From: Taco Hoekwater @ 2010-04-05 6:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
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luigi scarso wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 9:17 PM, Marco <netuse@lavabit.com> wrote:
>> Am Sun, 04 Apr 2010 21:19:49 +0200
>> schrieb Wolfgang Schuster <schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com>:
>>
>>> Am 04.04.10 21:07, schrieb Marco:
>>>> My version:
>>>> ConTeXt ver: 2010.03.30 18:56 MKIV
>>>> This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.52.0-2010032402 (rev 3515)
>>>>
>>> MTXrun | current version: 2010.03.30 18:56
>>> This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.52.0-2010031913
>>> Mac OS X 10.6.3
>>>
>>> Wolfgang
>> OK. The version are the same. I use linux but that should not cause the
>> problem. Maybe something wrong with the fonts? I also have TeXLive
>> installed.
> same bug here on linux x86
>
> # context --version
> MTXrun | current version: 2010.03.30 18:56
>
> # luatex --credits
> This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.60.0-2010040410 (rev 3588)
Same problem here too, and clearing the font cache didn't help. It looks
like Hans needs to have a look.
Best wishes,
Taco
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* Re: weird en/em dash behaviour
2010-04-05 6:49 ` Taco Hoekwater
@ 2010-05-10 16:29 ` Marco
2010-05-10 17:26 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Marco @ 2010-05-10 16:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi,
sorry for digging out this old thread, but the bug still persists, try
\starttext
\type{-} : - \par % OK
\type{--} : -- \par % missing
\type{---} : --- \par % missing
\tex{endash} : \endash \par % missing
\tex{emdash} : \emdash \par % missing
\type{\switchtobodyfont [11.99pt]}
\switchtobodyfont [11.99pt]
\type{-} : - \par % OK
\type{--} : -- \par % OK
\type{---} : --- \par % OK
\tex{endash} : \endash \par % OK
\tex{emdash} : \emdash \par % OK
\stoptext
My versions:
ConTeXt ver: 2010.05.08
This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.60.1-2010042821
linux-x86
I need no urgent fix, but maybe this should be solved in long-term. It's
hard to figure out what's wrong in a larger document (and how to get a
workaround) if you don't know.
Marco
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* Re: weird en/em dash behaviour
2010-05-10 16:29 ` Marco
@ 2010-05-10 17:26 ` Hans Hagen
2010-05-10 17:34 ` Marco
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2010-05-10 17:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 10-5-2010 6:29, Marco wrote:
> \starttext
> \type{-} : - \par % OK
> \type{--} : -- \par % missing
> \type{---} : --- \par % missing
> \tex{endash} : \endash \par % missing
> \tex{emdash} : \emdash \par % missing
>
> \type{\switchtobodyfont [11.99pt]}
> \switchtobodyfont [11.99pt]
>
> \type{-} : - \par % OK
> \type{--} : -- \par % OK
> \type{---} : --- \par % OK
> \tex{endash} : \endash \par % OK
> \tex{emdash} : \emdash \par % OK
> \stoptext
must be something in your system as i see those dashed here
Hans
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* Re: weird en/em dash behaviour
2010-05-10 17:26 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2010-05-10 17:34 ` Marco
2010-05-10 18:10 ` luigi scarso
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From: Marco @ 2010-05-10 17:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
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> must be something in your system as i see those dashed here
I don't think so. I suspect a linux-x86 issue, since the only persons
who confirmed this bug were Luigi and Taco, and both run linux-x86
systems. But maybe I'm wrong. I use freshly updated minimals from the
garden, so nothing special.
Marco
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* Re: weird en/em dash behaviour
2010-05-10 17:34 ` Marco
@ 2010-05-10 18:10 ` luigi scarso
2010-05-10 18:25 ` Marco
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From: luigi scarso @ 2010-05-10 18:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Marco <netuse@lavabit.com> wrote:
>> must be something in your system as i see those dashed here
> I don't think so. I suspect a linux-x86 issue, since the only persons
> who confirmed this bug were Luigi and Taco, and both run linux-x86
> systems. But maybe I'm wrong. I use freshly updated minimals from the
> garden, so nothing special.
On my linux box it's now OK with last current
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* Re: weird en/em dash behaviour
2010-05-10 18:10 ` luigi scarso
@ 2010-05-10 18:25 ` Marco
2010-05-10 18:43 ` luigi scarso
2010-05-10 18:54 ` Mojca Miklavec
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From: Marco @ 2010-05-10 18:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
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> On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Marco <netuse@lavabit.com> wrote:
> >> must be something in your system as i see those dashed here
> > I don't think so. I suspect a linux-x86 issue, since the only
> > persons who confirmed this bug were Luigi and Taco, and both run
> > linux-x86 systems. But maybe I'm wrong. I use freshly updated
> > minimals from the garden, so nothing special.
> On my linux box it's now OK with last current
Oh, I see. Can somebody confirm the missing glyphs? My output is
attached.
I know Hans has secret access to Mojcas' Mac, maybe he also infiltrated my
system and messed things up. ;-)
Marco
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* Re: weird en/em dash behaviour
2010-05-10 18:25 ` Marco
@ 2010-05-10 18:43 ` luigi scarso
2010-05-10 18:57 ` Marco
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From: luigi scarso @ 2010-05-10 18:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Marco <netuse@lavabit.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Marco <netuse@lavabit.com> wrote:
>> >> must be something in your system as i see those dashed here
>> > I don't think so. I suspect a linux-x86 issue, since the only
>> > persons who confirmed this bug were Luigi and Taco, and both run
>> > linux-x86 systems. But maybe I'm wrong. I use freshly updated
>> > minimals from the garden, so nothing special.
>> On my linux box it's now OK with last current
> Oh, I see. Can somebody confirm the missing glyphs? My output is
> attached.
What is wrong in your pdf ?
It's like mine, and it's ok.
Try to see it with Adobe Reader, or xpdf at least 400% , or just print it
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* Re: weird en/em dash behaviour
2010-05-10 18:25 ` Marco
2010-05-10 18:43 ` luigi scarso
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From: Mojca Miklavec @ 2010-05-10 18:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 20:25, Marco wrote:
>> On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Marco wrote:
>> >> must be something in your system as i see those dashed here
>> > I don't think so. I suspect a linux-x86 issue, since the only
>> > persons who confirmed this bug were Luigi and Taco, and both run
>> > linux-x86 systems. But maybe I'm wrong. I use freshly updated
>> > minimals from the garden, so nothing special.
>> On my linux box it's now OK with last current
> Oh, I see. Can somebody confirm the missing glyphs? My output is
> attached.
I can only confirm that they are not missing in your attachment. The
dashes are very thin, so maybe your PDF viewer doesn't show them until
you make a slightly bigger magnification.
Mojca
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* Re: weird en/em dash behaviour
2010-04-04 19:04 ` Aditya Mahajan
2010-04-04 19:07 ` Marco
@ 2010-04-04 19:10 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2010-04-04 19:13 ` Marco
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2010-04-04 19:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 04.04.10 21:04, schrieb Aditya Mahajan:
> Works here with both MkII and MkIV. But I am using an old version
> (2010.03.20). Maybe a bug was introduced later?
Works here with the latest beta too.
Wolfgang
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