Internet archive integration into bibliography

Internet archive integration into bibliography

[Matija Šuklje]

Hullo,

lately I got an great idea(TM) concerning citing internet sources.

\\ Initial problem:
the internet is ever changing, what says on a page today, might not be 
there tomorrow and in ten years' time the page might not exist at all.

\\ Solution so far:
just smack the date (and time) next to the link. I've seen that often and 
my faculty expects this from me as well.

\\ Problem with the solution so far:
it doesn't solve anything really.

\\ Solution(TM):
along with the URL and date, add the Internet Archive's link from that time 
next to it as well.

The ‘Solution(TM)’ is a bit tedious though, so it'd be great if ConTeXt 
could automate this process a bit. What I'm thinking is, if ConTeXt could 
take the URL and date stored in the bibliography (.bbl) and combine it 
together to form a URL of the Internet Archive's Wayback Machine to point 
to that particular page at that particular time.

In the document's bibliography then it could be rendered something like 
this:

Wikipedia: ConTeXt; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ConTeXt; as seen on the 
day: 12th of April 2010 at 13:45

With "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ConTeXt" being a hyperlink to just that 
and "12th of April 2010" being a hyperlink to 
http://web.archive.org/web/20100412134500/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ConTeXt

Note: using any date and time works OK with the archive.org, since if the 
date doesn't exist in its database, it falls back to the last archived site 
before the date requested.


What do you think? Would this make sense? If so, should we enable it by 
default?



Cheers,
Matija
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Re: Internet archive integration into bibliography

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 23:53, Matija Šuklje wrote:
>
> In the document's bibliography then it could be rendered something like
> this:
>
> Wikipedia: ConTeXt; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ConTeXt; as seen on the
> day: 12th of April 2010 at 13:45
>
> With "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ConTeXt" being a hyperlink to just that
> and "12th of April 2010" being a hyperlink to
> http://web.archive.org/web/20100412134500/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ConTeXt
>
> Note: using any date and time works OK with the archive.org, since if the
> date doesn't exist in its database, it falls back to the last archived site
> before the date requested.
>
>
> What do you think? Would this make sense? If so, should we enable it by
> default?

It's a nice idea, though in my opinion not something that should be
enabled by default, but maybe being easily accesible with some keyword
combination should do. (You probably need to create your own style for
citing web pages anyway.)

Mojca
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Re: Internet archive integration into bibliography

[Matija Šuklje]

Dne torek 13. aprila 2010 ob 18:36:13 je Mojca Miklavec napisal(a):
> It's a nice idea, though in my opinion not something that should be
> enabled by default, but maybe being easily accesible with some keyword
> combination should do. (You probably need to create your own style for
> citing web pages anyway.)

I'll try to bodge something together, include it in my PF_UL style and post 
it also as a separate Wiki entry.

I thought it'd be a nice feature for \url ...but maybe you're right.


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Matija
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