From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/58635 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Marco Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Hyphenation of composed words Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 07:27:07 +0200 Message-ID: <20100510072707.19eb2897@vorbis> References: <20100416164615.7381cc63@vorbis> <4BC8D7B8.4090406@wxs.nl> <20100509213411.31b62ed9@vorbis> <4BE77CB8.7010800@googlemail.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1273469833 22150 80.91.229.12 (10 May 2010 05:37:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 05:37:13 +0000 (UTC) To: ntg-context@ntg.nl Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Mon May 10 07:37:12 2010 connect(): No such file or directory Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OBLfz-0003pq-84 for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 May 2010 07:37:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id C61E7C9CC4; Mon, 10 May 2010 07:37:10 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id WV03Ncbnf32V; Mon, 10 May 2010 07:37:04 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1599FC9CB9; Mon, 10 May 2010 07:37:04 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8BB2C9CB9 for ; Mon, 10 May 2010 07:37:02 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 9o3vdWlHMVA9 for ; Mon, 10 May 2010 07:36:57 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0E82C9CB4 for ; Mon, 10 May 2010 07:36:57 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OBLfi-0003l5-01 for ntg-context@ntg.nl; Mon, 10 May 2010 07:36:54 +0200 Original-Received: from 202.58.85.36 ([202.58.85.36]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 10 May 2010 07:36:53 +0200 Original-Received: from netuse by 202.58.85.36 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 10 May 2010 07:36:53 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ connect(): No such file or directory Original-Lines: 27 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 202.58.85.36 X-Newsreader: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; i486-pc-linux-gnu) X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:58635 Archived-At: > 1. || does *not* produce a en-dash but to kerned hyphens You're right, I looked it up in the sources. It just looked like an en-dash for me. But this is wrong. For hyphenation a hyphen is used. The font designer has created a dedicated glyph for this purpose. And two hyphens (or an en-dash) is too large. I've never seen the advice in a typography book to kern two hyphens. I don't know why this is implemented like this. > 2. The correct method to get a *normal* hyphen is > > \setuphyphenmark[sign=normal] > Yes, this is the correct method. It should be enabled by default. If somebody wants a larger hyphen (for some mysterious reasen), he/she can set it up with \setuphyphenmark[sign=wide] > If the output is not correct it's a bug. Yes, it is a bug. Hans already confirmed and said, he'll fix it, but it is not yet done, that's why I wanted to remember him. You can try and run the example from my first post. With Thomas' workaround the output is OK, but it is only a workaround. I (and probably many other users) would like to have correct behaviour by default. Marco ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________