Problem with identation

Problem with identation

[Marius]

Hello,

\setupfloats[indentnext=yes] has no effect in the example below? I
expect the line 6 above figure to be indented.


==============================
\setupindenting[yes,7mm]
\setupfloats[indentnext=yes]

\starttext
\input tufte
\input knuth

\placefigure
  [bottom,top][]
  {Title}
  {\externalfigure[cow][width=0.6\textwidth]}

\input tufte
\input knuth

\stoptext
==============================
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Re: Problem with identation

[Marius]

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Here is more clear example in the attachments.

Indenting looks broken if you are using floats in your document and it
is broken in current and previous versions of ConTeXt too.

There is a tread in this mailing list about indenting [1], but the
given example used the option [here] and my reported issue does not
appear. As soon as float starts to float, the paragraph there it was
placed in the source document is not indented and I can't find a way
to indent it.

If it is designed this way, then how to indent a line after a float?

Is it a bug? If it is, then I will fill an issue here [2].


[1] http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2010/046799.html
[2] http://tracker.luatex.org/my_view_page.php

On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 6:30 PM, Marius <mariausol@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> \setupfloats[indentnext=yes] has no effect in the example below? I
> expect the line 6 above figure to be indented.
>
>
> ==============================
> \setupindenting[yes,7mm]
> \setupfloats[indentnext=yes]
>
> \starttext
> \input tufte
> \input knuth
>
> \placefigure
>  [bottom,top][]
>  {Title}
>  {\externalfigure[cow][width=0.6\textwidth]}
>
> \input tufte
> \input knuth
>
> \stoptext
> ==============================
>

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Re: Problem with identation

[Hans Hagen]

On 20-5-2010 10:51, Marius wrote:
> \setupindenting[yes,7mm]
>>  \setupfloats[indentnext=yes]
>>
>>  \starttext
>>  \input tufte
>>  \input knuth
>>
>>  \placefigure
>>    [bottom,top][]
>>    {Title}
>>    {\externalfigure[cow][width=0.6\textwidth]}
>>
>>  \input tufte
>>  \input knuth


by the time you place the figure at the top, the first paragraph has 
already been typeset

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Re: Problem with identation

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Thu, 20 May 2010, Hans Hagen wrote:

> On 20-5-2010 10:51, Marius wrote:
>> \setupindenting[yes,7mm]
>>>  \setupfloats[indentnext=yes]
>>>
>>>  \starttext
>>>  \input tufte
>>>  \input knuth
>>>
>>>  \placefigure
>>>    [bottom,top][]
>>>    {Title}
>>>    {\externalfigure[cow][width=0.6\textwidth]}
>>>
>>>  \input tufte
>>>  \input knuth
>
>
> by the time you place the figure at the top, the first paragraph has already 
> been typeset

I think that the question is about the *fourth* paragraph (coming from the 
2nd tufte quote). Search the pdf for "thrive".

I also find this behaviour to be broken. Why should the next paragraph 
after \placefloat in the source lose its indentation? IMO, only 
\placefigure[left] should affect the indentation, everything else should 
simply leave indentation alone. Or atleast, there should be a way to 
configure the indentation behaviour depending on what type of float we are 
dealing with.

Aditya
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Re: Problem with identation

[Hans Hagen]

On 20-5-2010 5:48, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
> On Thu, 20 May 2010, Hans Hagen wrote:
>
>> On 20-5-2010 10:51, Marius wrote:
>>> \setupindenting[yes,7mm]
>>>> \setupfloats[indentnext=yes]
>>>>
>>>> \starttext
>>>> \input tufte
>>>> \input knuth
>>>>
>>>> \placefigure
>>>> [bottom,top][]
>>>> {Title}
>>>> {\externalfigure[cow][width=0.6\textwidth]}
>>>>
>>>> \input tufte
>>>> \input knuth
>>
>>
>> by the time you place the figure at the top, the first paragraph has
>> already been typeset
>
> I think that the question is about the *fourth* paragraph (coming from
> the 2nd tufte quote). Search the pdf for "thrive".
>
> I also find this behaviour to be broken. Why should the next paragraph
> after \placefloat in the source lose its indentation? IMO, only
> \placefigure[left] should affect the indentation, everything else should
> simply leave indentation alone. Or atleast, there should be a way to
> configure the indentation behaviour depending on what type of float we
> are dealing with.

\definefloat ..

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Re: Problem with identation

[Marius]

Please, Hans, write a little more, I can't understand what you mean.

From what I red and understood ConTeXt seems very promising in
comparison with LaTeX. After playing around for two months, I recently
started to use ConTeXt for the real work: my dissertacion summary. I
made style for it and now while filling the contents I spoted this
identation problem and I am stuck because of it. As this problem is
beyond my capabilities and time is short, I have now three options:
return to LaTeX, use [here] option (and manual formating) or please
help me :)

Thank you,
Marius

On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 7:11 PM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
> On 20-5-2010 5:48, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 20 May 2010, Hans Hagen wrote:
>>
>>> On 20-5-2010 10:51, Marius wrote:
>>>>
>>>> \setupindenting[yes,7mm]
>>>>>
>>>>> \setupfloats[indentnext=yes]
>>>>>
>>>>> \starttext
>>>>> \input tufte
>>>>> \input knuth
>>>>>
>>>>> \placefigure
>>>>> [bottom,top][]
>>>>> {Title}
>>>>> {\externalfigure[cow][width=0.6\textwidth]}
>>>>>
>>>>> \input tufte
>>>>> \input knuth
>>>
>>>
>>> by the time you place the figure at the top, the first paragraph has
>>> already been typeset
>>
>> I think that the question is about the *fourth* paragraph (coming from
>> the 2nd tufte quote). Search the pdf for "thrive".
>>
>> I also find this behaviour to be broken. Why should the next paragraph
>> after \placefloat in the source lose its indentation? IMO, only
>> \placefigure[left] should affect the indentation, everything else should
>> simply leave indentation alone. Or atleast, there should be a way to
>> configure the indentation behaviour depending on what type of float we
>> are dealing with.
>
> \definefloat ..
>
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Re: Problem with identation

[Peter Münster]

On Fri, May 21 2010, Marius wrote:

> identation problem and I am stuck because of it. As this problem is
> beyond my capabilities and time is short, I have now three options:
> return to LaTeX, use [here] option (and manual formating) or please
> help me :)

Fourth option: use a workaround.

> >>>>> \placefigure
> >>>>> [bottom,top][]
> >>>>> {Title}
> >>>>> {\externalfigure[cow][width=0.6\textwidth]}
> >>>>>

\indentation \input tufte

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Re: Problem with identation

[Marius]

On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 1:47 PM, Peter Münster <pmlists@free.fr> wrote:
> On Fri, May 21 2010, Marius wrote:
>
>> identation problem and I am stuck because of it. As this problem is
>> beyond my capabilities and time is short, I have now three options:
>> return to LaTeX, use [here] option (and manual formating) or please
>> help me :)
>
> Fourth option: use a workaround.
>
>> >>>>> \placefigure
>> >>>>> [bottom,top][]
>> >>>>> {Title}
>> >>>>> {\externalfigure[cow][width=0.6\textwidth]}
>> >>>>>
>
> \indentation \input tufte

I remember that there is a command to indent (tried \indent,
\indenting), but could not recall and find it in documentation.
Thank you for the hint.
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Re: Problem with identation

[Peter Münster]

On Wed, May 19 2010, Marius wrote:

> \setupfloats[indentnext=yes] has no effect in the example below? I
> expect the line 6 above figure to be indented.
> 
> 
> \placefigure
>   [bottom,top][]

Strange, there is no such problem when you write "top,bottom"!
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Re: Problem with identation

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Fri, 21 May 2010, Marius wrote:

>> \indentation \input tufte
>
> I remember that there is a command to indent (tried \indent,
> \indenting), but could not recall and find it in documentation.

Also see (which needs to be wikified)

http://www.tug.org/TUGboat/Articles/tb29-2/tb92mahajan.pdf

Aditya
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