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* Removing Introduction section number
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@ 2010-06-06 20:57 ` Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky
  2010-06-06 21:15   ` Wolfgang Schuster
  2010-06-06 21:20   ` Yury G. Kudryashov
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From: Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky @ 2010-06-06 20:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ntg-context

Hello,

It might be 100 time this question appears on the list, but I cannot 
find the answer.

I need Introduction to have no number, and next section to have number 
1, so on. My current solution gives me number 2, instead.

Please, look what should be done with my code:

\starttext
\setupindenting[yes, big, first]
\setupheads[indentnext=yes]
\setupfloats[indentnext=yes]

\setuphead[section][number=no]
\section{INTRODUCTION} % should have no number

The syllabus on each discipline is a must for successful teaching 
process organization according to the European Credit Transfer System. 
Teachers and students are to be familiarized with it. Grading system is 
an integral part of the syllabus and provides for assessment of 
student’s knowledge and skills during current, module and semester checks.

Grading procedure is performed according to the national grading scale 
and European Credit Transfer System grading scale.

\setuphead[section][number=yes]
\section{REFERENCE NOTES}  % should have number 1

\subsection{Aim of the discipline}  % 1.1

\subsection{Tasks for learning the discipline} % 1.2

\section{DISCIPLINE CONTENT}  % should have number 2

...

\stoptext
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* Re: Removing Introduction section number
  2010-06-06 20:57 ` Removing Introduction section number Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky
@ 2010-06-06 21:15   ` Wolfgang Schuster
  2010-06-06 21:39     ` How to not propagate head settings? Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky
  2010-06-13 20:03     ` Removing Introduction section number Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky
  2010-06-06 21:20   ` Yury G. Kudryashov
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2010-06-06 21:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: mailing list for ConTeXt users; +Cc: Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky

Am 06.06.10 22:57, schrieb Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky:
> Hello,
>
> It might be 100 time this question appears on the list, but I cannot 
> find the answer.
>
> I need Introduction to have no number, and next section to have number 
> 1, so on. My current solution gives me number 2, instead.

1. Use \subject for the introduction.

2. Use ConTeXt’s document strcuture:

\setuphead[section][textstyle=WORD]

\starttext

\startfrontmatter

\section{Introduction}

...

\stopfrontmatter

\startbodymatter

\section{Reference notes}

...

\stopbodymatter

\stoptext

Wolfgang

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* Re: Removing Introduction section number
  2010-06-06 20:57 ` Removing Introduction section number Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky
  2010-06-06 21:15   ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2010-06-06 21:20   ` Yury G. Kudryashov
  2010-06-06 21:46     ` Alan BRASLAU
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From: Yury G. Kudryashov @ 2010-06-06 21:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ntg-context

Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> It might be 100 time this question appears on the list, but I cannot
> find the answer.
> 
> I need Introduction to have no number, and next section to have number
> 1, so on. My current solution gives me number 2, instead.
There are two cases:
1. You want Introduction in the table of contents. Then you should copy 
section to another head, and setup it with number=no (have no time to test):

\definehead[secnonum][section]
\setuphead[secnonum][number=no]
\secnonum{Introduction}

2. You don't want Intruduction in the table of contents. Then just use 
\subject{Introduction}.

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* How to not propagate head settings?
  2010-06-06 21:15   ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2010-06-06 21:39     ` Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky
  2010-06-06 22:07       ` Wolfgang Schuster
  2010-06-13 20:03     ` Removing Introduction section number Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky
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From: Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky @ 2010-06-06 21:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Wolfgang Schuster, ntg-context

Interesting, when I set any property of a section, the subsections and 
subsubsections are affected too. This is not bad, but is there a key to 
disable such a propagation?

In the following example I need to turn off textstyle and restore align:

\setuphead[section][textstyle=WORD, style={\bfa}, align=center]
\setuphead[subsection][textstyle={}, style={\bf}, align=right]

Regards,
Vyatcheslav
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* Re: Removing Introduction section number
  2010-06-06 21:20   ` Yury G. Kudryashov
@ 2010-06-06 21:46     ` Alan BRASLAU
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From: Alan BRASLAU @ 2010-06-06 21:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ntg-context

On Sunday 06 June 2010 23:20:29 Yury G. Kudryashov wrote:
> 1. You want Introduction in the table of contents. Then you should copy
> section to another head, and setup it with number=no (have no time to
> test):
> 
> \definehead[secnonum][section]
> \setuphead[secnonum][number=no]
> \secnonum{Introduction}

This is flexible, but is this really elegant?
Would it not be better (i.e. intuitive) to be able to simply type:
\section [number=no] {Introduction}
After all, one feature that I *really* like about ConTeXt is inheritance and 
default options that can be fixed through \setupsomething, or through a case 
by case basis.



Unnumbered sections is the default within
\startfrontmatter
\stopfrontmatter

However, it is quite logical to also have unnumbered Introduction (and 
Conclusions) in the body of the work that are to appear in the table of 
contents as well.

In a work using \part, the same can apply to \chapter.

Alan
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* Re: How to not propagate head settings?
  2010-06-06 21:39     ` How to not propagate head settings? Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky
@ 2010-06-06 22:07       ` Wolfgang Schuster
  2010-06-06 22:17         ` Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2010-06-06 22:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky; +Cc: ntg-context, Hans Hagen

Am 06.06.10 23:39, schrieb Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky:
> Interesting, when I set any property of a section, the subsections and
> subsubsections are affected too. This is not bad, but is there a key
> to disable such a propagation?
>
> In the following example I need to turn off textstyle and restore align:
>
> \setuphead[section][textstyle=WORD, style={\bfa}, align=center]
> \setuphead[subsection][textstyle={}, style={\bf}, align=right]

Not untill Hans change the parameter handling in the section code,
currently parts use the global settings from \setupheads, chapter
the settings from \part etc.

When you make a example you will notice that \subsubsection use
the values from your \subsection setup for style and alignment.

Wolfgang

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* Re: How to not propagate head settings?
  2010-06-06 22:07       ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2010-06-06 22:17         ` Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky
  2010-06-06 22:29           ` Hans Hagen
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From: Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky @ 2010-06-06 22:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Wolfgang Schuster, ntg-context

Thanks, current state of affairs is not bad (maybe even better then 
not-propagating alternative), but it's always good to have another 
option, like

\setuphead[section][textstyle=WORD, style={\bfa}, align=center, 
propagate=no]
\setuphead[subsection][style={\bf}]

:)


Another question - I try to make a macro for a "filled in" date.

Empty date is ok
\def \FillInDate {"\hl[2]"\hl[4]\hskip1mm 20\hl[2]\hskip.5mm}

\starttext
\FillInDate
\stoptext

But my printing date "under lines" is a mess. In particular, I want to 
add a bit more space around numbers, but anything I do, the space is not 
underlined for some strange reason. In contrary, month and year are 
glued together, while I want them to be separated by space.

\def \FilledDate#1#2#3 {"\underbar{ #1 }"\hskip5mm\underbar{#2}\hskip5mm 
\underbar{#3}\hskip.5mm}

\starttext
\FilledDate{06}{05}{2010}
\stoptext

-- 
Best Regards,
Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky
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* Re: How to not propagate head settings?
  2010-06-06 22:17         ` Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky
@ 2010-06-06 22:29           ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2010-06-06 22:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: mailing list for ConTeXt users; +Cc: Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky

On 7-6-2010 12:17, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote:
> Thanks, current state of affairs is not bad (maybe even better then
> not-propagating alternative), but it's always good to have another
> option, like
>
> \setuphead[section][textstyle=WORD, style={\bfa}, align=center,
> propagate=no]
> \setuphead[subsection][style={\bf}]

you can try parent= but it might break other propagation


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* Re: Removing Introduction section number
  2010-06-06 21:15   ` Wolfgang Schuster
  2010-06-06 21:39     ` How to not propagate head settings? Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky
@ 2010-06-13 20:03     ` Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky
  2010-06-14  6:48       ` Taco Hoekwater
  2010-06-14 12:27       ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky @ 2010-06-13 20:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Wolfgang Schuster, ntg-context

Hello,

I'm still in need of help with numberless sections.

While using front, body,and back matter sounds goos, but it makes new 
pages. \subject is perfect, but it does not appear in contents.

Most simple (if there is no other options) seems to use \subject, but 
add it to the TOC. How can I do it?

-- 
Best Regards,
Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky
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* Re: Removing Introduction section number
  2010-06-13 20:03     ` Removing Introduction section number Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky
@ 2010-06-14  6:48       ` Taco Hoekwater
  2010-06-14 12:27       ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Taco Hoekwater @ 2010-06-14  6:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: mailing list for ConTeXt users

Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I'm still in need of help with numberless sections.
> 
> While using front, body,and back matter sounds goos, but it makes new 
> pages. \subject is perfect, but it does not appear in contents.
> 
> Most simple (if there is no other options) seems to use \subject, but 
> add it to the TOC. How can I do it?

Use \writetolist, maybe:

   \subject{Whatever}
   \writelist[section]{}{Whatever}

Best wishes,
Taco




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* Re: Removing Introduction section number
  2010-06-13 20:03     ` Removing Introduction section number Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky
  2010-06-14  6:48       ` Taco Hoekwater
@ 2010-06-14 12:27       ` Wolfgang Schuster
  2010-06-14 12:30         ` Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2010-06-14 12:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky; +Cc: ntg-context

Am 13.06.10 22:03, schrieb Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky:
> Hello,
>
> I'm still in need of help with numberless sections.
>
> While using front, body,and back matter sounds goos, but it makes new 
> pages. \subject is perfect, but it does not appear in contents.
>
> Most simple (if there is no other options) seems to use \subject, but 
> add it to the TOC. How can I do it?

\setuphead[subject][incrementnumber=list]

and

\placelist[chapter,section,subject,...]

Wolfgang

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* Re: Removing Introduction section number
  2010-06-14 12:27       ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2010-06-14 12:30         ` Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky
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From: Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky @ 2010-06-14 12:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Wolfgang Schuster, ntg-context

Thank you all for help.

Actually, I most like front/body matter without page breaks, because it 
further structures the text (the thing I adore in TeX).

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Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky
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* Re: Removing Introduction section number
  2010-06-14 13:40           ` Alan BRASLAU
@ 2010-06-14 13:55             ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2010-06-14 13:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 14-6-2010 3:40, Alan BRASLAU wrote:

> Quite logical and straightforward.

there are few exeptions where an {} is also accepted which is handy when 
used in say \setupheadertexts[...]; for instance \useMPgraphic takes a 
{} instead of a [] but to some extend you may see them as low level 
commands

Hans

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* Re: Removing Introduction section number
  2010-06-14 11:17         ` Taco Hoekwater
@ 2010-06-14 13:40           ` Alan BRASLAU
  2010-06-14 13:55             ` Hans Hagen
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From: Alan BRASLAU @ 2010-06-14 13:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Taco Hoekwater, mailing list for ConTeXt users

On Monday 14 June 2010 13:17:54 Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> Hi Alan,
> 
> Alan BRASLAU wrote:
> > I have to say that I am now a bit confused about the use of arguments in
> > ConTeXt.
> 
> The general rule is quite straightforward:
> 
> * arguments in {} pairs are typeset material
> * arguments in [] are setup instructions and metadata
> 
> Whether or not an argument is optional has nothing to
> do with the used delimiters.

Quite logical and straightforward.

It is useful to read the manual (section 1.3):
"A command is often followed by setups or by text. Setups
are placed between brackets ([]). The scope or range of
the command, the text acted upon, is placed between
curly brackets ({})."

...

I see that my reflexes have been spoiled by years of practice with LaTeX - old 
habits die hard.
Lamport (section 2.5):
"Command arguments are enclosed in curly braces { and },
except for optional arguments, which are enclosed in square
brackets [ and ]."

So I added a paragraph to
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/From_LaTeX_to_ConTeXt#Command_syntax

Alan
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* Re: Removing Introduction section number
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@ 2010-06-14 11:18 ` Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky
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From: Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky @ 2010-06-14 11:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ntg-context

 >
> How about \section[reference][number=no]{Whatever}?
>

Or \section[reference]{Whatever}[number=no]?

:o)

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* Re: Removing Introduction section number
  2010-06-14 10:30       ` Alan BRASLAU
@ 2010-06-14 11:17         ` Taco Hoekwater
  2010-06-14 13:40           ` Alan BRASLAU
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From: Taco Hoekwater @ 2010-06-14 11:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Alan BRASLAU; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users, Hans Hagen


Hi Alan,

Alan BRASLAU wrote:
> I have to say that I am now a bit confused about the use of arguments in 
> ConTeXt.

The general rule is quite straightforward:

* arguments in {} pairs are typeset material
* arguments in [] are setup instructions and metadata

Whether or not an argument is optional has nothing to
do with the used delimiters.

Best wishes,
Taco
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* Re: Removing Introduction section number
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From: Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky @ 2010-06-14 10:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ntg-context

Yes, yes, yes!
Thank you, friends )

\setupsectionblock[bodypart][page=no]
\setupsectionblock[frontpart][page=no]


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* Re: Removing Introduction section number
  2010-06-14  9:52     ` Hans Hagen
  2010-06-14 10:14       ` Peter Münster
@ 2010-06-14 10:30       ` Alan BRASLAU
  2010-06-14 11:17         ` Taco Hoekwater
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From: Alan BRASLAU @ 2010-06-14 10:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Hans Hagen; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users, Taco Hoekwater

On Monday 14 June 2010 11:52:28 Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 14-6-2010 9:39, Alan BRASLAU wrote:
> >     \section[number=no]{Whatever}
> 
> this will not happen as the first argument is optional and reserved for
> a cross reference
> 
> Hans

Yes, of course!
How about \section[reference][number=no]{Whatever}?



The following is a bit verbose. It is related, but is more general than the 
subject of unnumbered sections...

I have to say that I am now a bit confused about the use of arguments in 
ConTeXt.

In LaTeX, optional arguments are contained within [] and required arguments 
are grouped within {}. However, in ConTeXt, the situation is not quite so 
clear. Take \section[reference]{Title} for example. Here, the reference is 
optional and the Title is required, so a title-less section would be 
\section{}. This is somewhat sane, even though one may well use sections 
without titles.

Contrast this with \cite (I choose this example as I just figured-out that its 
misuse was the cause of some obscure problems in a big project). We have 
\cite[key], rather then \cite{key} as in LaTeX. Is this because we may also 
have \cite[authoryear][key]? Of course, the key is not optional as one can 
hardly imagine using \cite without some sort of key, so one might expect 
usage: "as remarked by \cite[authoryear]{Einstein1905}."

My error was to have reflexively used \cite{key}, and this sort-of worked so I 
did not pay it any attention. However, here and there in my document, 
references, for example \chapter[ImportantStuff]{Important stuff} were broken, 
with no obvious reason. After correcting my use of \cite[key], other 
references were suddenly fixed.

Alan
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* Re: Removing Introduction section number
  2010-06-14 10:21         ` Hans Hagen
@ 2010-06-14 10:27           ` John Haltiwanger
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I do not see \startsection ... \stopsection on the command reference wiki ..

What are the benefits of this approach?

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
> On 14-6-2010 12:14, Peter Münster wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 14 2010, Hans Hagen wrote:
>>
>>>>     \section[number=no]{Whatever}
>>>
>>> this will not happen as the first argument is optional and reserved for a
>>> cross reference
>>
>> In mkiv, can we consider the \section commands as obsolete, since we have
>> now \startsection ... \stopsection ?
>
> well, not obsolete as it's convenient but it will definitely not be extended
> / changed
>
> Hans
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* Re: Removing Introduction section number
  2010-06-14 10:14       ` Peter Münster
@ 2010-06-14 10:21         ` Hans Hagen
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On 14-6-2010 12:14, Peter Münster wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 14 2010, Hans Hagen wrote:
>
>>>      \section[number=no]{Whatever}
>>
>> this will not happen as the first argument is optional and reserved for a
>> cross reference
>
> In mkiv, can we consider the \section commands as obsolete, since we have
> now \startsection ... \stopsection ?

well, not obsolete as it's convenient but it will definitely not be 
extended / changed

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* Re: Removing Introduction section number
  2010-06-14  9:52     ` Hans Hagen
@ 2010-06-14 10:14       ` Peter Münster
  2010-06-14 10:21         ` Hans Hagen
  2010-06-14 10:30       ` Alan BRASLAU
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On Mon, Jun 14 2010, Hans Hagen wrote:

>>     \section[number=no]{Whatever}
>
> this will not happen as the first argument is optional and reserved for a 
> cross reference

In mkiv, can we consider the \section commands as obsolete, since we have
now \startsection ... \stopsection ?
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* Re: Removing Introduction section number
  2010-06-14  7:39   ` Alan BRASLAU
  2010-06-14  7:54     ` Taco Hoekwater
  2010-06-14  9:52     ` Hans Hagen
@ 2010-06-14 10:12     ` Hans Hagen
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\unprotect

% already set: \setupstructurehead[chapter][appendixlabel=appendix]
%
% but was not yet hooked into:

\unexpanded\def\fullstructureheadnumber
    {\edef\currentstructureheadlabeltag{\currentstructureblock\c!label}%
 
\labeltexts{\structureheadparameter\currentstructureheadlabeltag}{\structurenumber}}

\protect

\starttext

     \setuplabeltext[chapter=Chapter ]
     \setuplabeltext[appendix=Appendix ]

     \placelist[chapter][criterium=text]

     \startfrontmatter
         \chapter{Not numbered but in list}
         \title{Not numbered and not in list}
     \stopfrontmatter

     \startbodymatter
         \chapter{Numbered but in list}
         \title{Unnumbered and not in list}
     \stopbodymatter

     \startappendices
         \chapter{Numbered but in list}
         \title{Unnumbered and not in list}
     \stopappendices

\stoptext

for other tweaking using \definehead[xxx][section] ... is more suitable 
than local tweaking as one often wants to inherit features

Hans


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* Re: Removing Introduction section number
  2010-06-14  7:39   ` Alan BRASLAU
  2010-06-14  7:54     ` Taco Hoekwater
@ 2010-06-14  9:52     ` Hans Hagen
  2010-06-14 10:14       ` Peter Münster
  2010-06-14 10:30       ` Alan BRASLAU
  2010-06-14 10:12     ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2010-06-14  9:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: mailing list for ConTeXt users; +Cc: Taco Hoekwater

On 14-6-2010 9:39, Alan BRASLAU wrote:

>     \section[number=no]{Whatever}

this will not happen as the first argument is optional and reserved for 
a cross reference

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* Re: Removing Introduction section number
  2010-06-14  8:04       ` Alan BRASLAU
@ 2010-06-14  8:14         ` Taco Hoekwater
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Alan BRASLAU wrote:
> On Monday 14 June 2010 09:54:30 Taco Hoekwater wrote:
>> Actually, I almost never use \writetolist myself, but then I usually
>> have special sectioning commands (in larger documents):
>>
>>    \definehead[Usection][section]
>>    \setuphead[Usection][number=no]
>>
>>    \Usection{...}
>>
>> This could be wrapped in a macro if you want key=value parsing.
> 
> I presently use this myself, as a solution to what I consider to be a missing 
> feature. It is convenient, but is not generally elegant either. Again, 
> \section[number=no]{...} is quite natural and intuitive.

FWIW, I agree with you.

Best wishes,
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* Re: Removing Introduction section number
  2010-06-14  7:54     ` Taco Hoekwater
@ 2010-06-14  8:04       ` Alan BRASLAU
  2010-06-14  8:14         ` Taco Hoekwater
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From: Alan BRASLAU @ 2010-06-14  8:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ntg-context; +Cc: Taco Hoekwater

On Monday 14 June 2010 09:54:30 Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> 
> Actually, I almost never use \writetolist myself, but then I usually
> have special sectioning commands (in larger documents):
> 
>    \definehead[Usection][section]
>    \setuphead[Usection][number=no]
> 
>    \Usection{...}
> 
> This could be wrapped in a macro if you want key=value parsing.

I presently use this myself, as a solution to what I consider to be a missing 
feature. It is convenient, but is not generally elegant either. Again, 
\section[number=no]{...} is quite natural and intuitive.

Alan
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* Re: Removing Introduction section number
  2010-06-14  7:39   ` Alan BRASLAU
@ 2010-06-14  7:54     ` Taco Hoekwater
  2010-06-14  8:04       ` Alan BRASLAU
  2010-06-14  9:52     ` Hans Hagen
  2010-06-14 10:12     ` Hans Hagen
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Alan BRASLAU wrote:
> On Monday 14 June 2010 08:52:16 Taco Hoekwater wrote:
>> Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote:
>>> ...or preventing startbodymatter from making new page.
>>    \setupsectionblock[bodypart][page=no]
>>
>> or
>>
>>    \setupsectionblock[frontpart][page=no]
>>
>> (I don't remember whether this is executed at the end
>> or the begin of the block).
> 
> This is much more elegant than
>    \subject{Whatever}
>    \writelist[section]{}{Whatever}
> repeating "Whatever" twice.
> 
> I will repeat here the suggestion, seconded by others, of parsing
>    \section[number=no]{Whatever}
> to be used notably within \startbodypart...\stopbodypart
> Note that an unnumbered \section vs. \subject do not fill exactly the same 
> need.

Actually, I almost never use \writetolist myself, but then I usually
have special sectioning commands (in larger documents):

   \definehead[Usection][section]
   \setuphead[Usection][number=no]

   \Usection{...}

This could be wrapped in a macro if you want key=value parsing.



Best wishes,
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* Re: Removing Introduction section number
  2010-06-14  6:52 ` Taco Hoekwater
@ 2010-06-14  7:39   ` Alan BRASLAU
  2010-06-14  7:54     ` Taco Hoekwater
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From: Alan BRASLAU @ 2010-06-14  7:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ntg-context; +Cc: Taco Hoekwater

On Monday 14 June 2010 08:52:16 Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote:
> > ...or preventing startbodymatter from making new page.
> 
>    \setupsectionblock[bodypart][page=no]
> 
> or
> 
>    \setupsectionblock[frontpart][page=no]
> 
> (I don't remember whether this is executed at the end
> or the begin of the block).

This is much more elegant than
   \subject{Whatever}
   \writelist[section]{}{Whatever}
repeating "Whatever" twice.

I will repeat here the suggestion, seconded by others, of parsing
   \section[number=no]{Whatever}
to be used notably within \startbodypart...\stopbodypart
Note that an unnumbered \section vs. \subject do not fill exactly the same 
need.


Also, while on the subject of sectionblocks, there should be some way of 
defining
    \startsectionblockenvironment[bodypart]
        \setuplist[chapter][label=yes]
    \stopsectionblockenvironment
Presently, this does not work, and simply setting
    \setuplist[chapter][label=yes]
will, of course, put the label ("Chapter") everywhere in the table of contents 
including frontmatter and backmatter, that is if one also redefines
    \setuplabeltext[chapter=Chapter ] % with trailing space
as this is, curiously, blank by default.

Alan
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* Re: Removing Introduction section number
  2010-06-13 20:08 Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky
@ 2010-06-14  6:52 ` Taco Hoekwater
  2010-06-14  7:39   ` Alan BRASLAU
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Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote:
> 
> ...or preventing startbodymatter from making new page.
> 

   \setupsectionblock[bodypart][page=no]

or

   \setupsectionblock[frontpart][page=no]

(I don't remember whether this is executed at the end
or the begin of the block).


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* Re: Removing Introduction section number
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...or preventing startbodymatter from making new page.

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* Re: Removing Introduction section number
  2010-06-06 22:23 ` Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky
@ 2010-06-07 22:00   ` Rogutės Sparnuotos
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Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky (2010-06-07 01:23):
> 
> +1 for  \section [number=no] {Introduction}
> 
> This was my first guess to try, and it is so convinient!
> 
> :)

This is similar to what I was (intuitively) trying out first, when
tackling this same problem last week...

Couldn't \section[]{} keep accepting the reference label in the square
brackets, and support more comma separated options (for case by case
option adjustment, as Alan mentioned)?

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* Re: Removing Introduction section number
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@ 2010-06-06 22:23 ` Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky
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+1 for  \section [number=no] {Introduction}

This was my first guess to try, and it is so convinient!

:)


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From: Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky @ 2010-06-06 22:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ntg-context

> There are two cases:
> 1. You want Introduction in the table of contents. Then you should copy
> section to another head, and setup it with number=no (have no time to test):
>
> \definehead[secnonum][section]
> \setuphead[secnonum][number=no]
> \secnonum{Introduction}
>
> 2. You don't want Intruduction in the table of contents. Then just use
> \subject{Introduction}.

Thank you too!

I do want Introduction to be in the contents! Maybe, its easier to setup 
\subject so that it will be included, then to invent new keywords?

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